Open Stack

There are at least end users, operators and developers in the OpenStack
technical ecosystem.

There are also 'OpenStack' related discussions that aren't technical in
nature.

It doesn't seem right to make the operators list a catchall.

For exporting from Launchpad, surely someone at Canonical would be able and
willing to get that list of emails.

If people think migrating the archive is important, then it shouldn't be
that hard to sort that out either, once we decide what is acceptable.

regards,
Andrew


On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Brian Schott <
brian.schott at nimbisservices.com> wrote:

> Stef,
>
> It's pretty obvious to me that there should be a general list at
> openstack at lists.openstack.org.  The operators list is intended for
> operations people that host OpenStack deployments, not a general OpenStack
> user audience.  I'd create the general openstack list, and setup a daily
> post to the LP list stating that the LP list will shut down on the last day
> of the summit along with descriptions and links to the foundation mailing
> lists and their purpose. Make the exact same info available on the wiki and
> in the docs.  The sooner we end the "right list" ambiguity the better.
>
> In terms of the old archives, can you export the old LP-hosted mailing
> list archives?  If so, the mailman archive file format is brain dead simple
> and a grad student somewhere could perl script it (or python it or ruby it
> or whatever they use these days) in an hour or so.  If not, it is OK to
> just link the old archives in the description of the new lists.
>
> Brian
>
>
> On Aug 27, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Stefano Maffulli <stefano at openstack.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello folks
> >
> > picking up this comment on the Development mailing list:
> >
> > On Mon 27 Aug 2012 02:08:48 PM PDT, Jason Kölker wrote:
> >> I've noticed that both this list and the old launchpad lists are being
> >> used. Which is the correct list?
> >
> > I sent the following message, with questions at the end that are better
> > answered on this list.
> >
> > The mailing list situation *at the moment* is summarized on
> > http://wiki.openstack.org/MailingLists
> >
> > To try to answer your question, the mailing list  for the developers of
> > OpenStack to discuss development issues and roadmap is
> > openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org. It is focused on the
> > next release of OpenStack: you should post on this list if you are a
> > contributor to OpenStack or are very familiar with OpenStack
> > development and want to discuss very precise topics, contribution ideas
> > and similar. Do not ask support requests on this list.
> >
> >
> > The old Launchpad list (this list) should be closed so we don't rely on
> > Launchpad for mailing list anymore. Last time we talked about this I
> > don't think we reached consensus on how to move things around and where
> > to land this General mailing list. A few people suggested to use the
> > exisiting openstack-operators mailing list as General list, therefore
> > not creating anything new.
> >
> > Moving a group of over 4000 people from one list on Launchpad to
> > another on our mailman is scary. Unfortunately we can't export the list
> > of email addresses subscribed to Launchpad and invite them to another
> > list (LP doesn't allow that).  The first question is:
> >
> > * where would people go for general openstack usage questions (is
> > 'operators' the  best fit?)
> >
> > * Then, what do we do with Launchpad mailing list archives?
> >
> > If we find an agreement we can aim at closing the old LP-hosted mailing
> > list around the summit, where we will be able to announce the new list
> > destination to many people.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > /stef
> >
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