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Matt, that answer is simple: so we can use things other than sqlalchemy.



On Dec 15, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Matt Dietz wrote:

> I have to confess to being confused here. We deliberately chose
> sqlalchemy. Then we mapped everything away so it didn't look like the ORM
> in question when in reality, we partially took some of said ORM's job away
> from it. Now we're complaining that the ORM we likely aren't using
> correctly isn't working for us. In short, we chose to use an ORM, and now
> we're complaining about the O
> 
> I'm not seeing what taking everything to a dictionary-centric model buys
> us, and I also don't see anyone actually justifying it. Can we get some
> actual examples of why one approach is better than the other?
> 
> 
> On 12/15/11 10:54 AM, "Johannes Erdfelt" <johannes at erdfelt.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011, Kevin L. Mitchell <kevin.mitchell at rackspace.com>
>> wrote:
>>>     2. However, I violently disagree with the idea that the DB layer
>>>        must return dicts.  It does not, even if you start talking about
>>>        allowing use of other kinds of databases.  We can, and should,
>>>        wrap these things in objects, upon which we can call methods
>>>        that do things‹i.e., we should, you know, actually use
>>>        object-oriented programming.
>> 
>> What kinds of things?
>> 
>> I'm not against returning back a standardized object that provides
>> __getattr__ so we don't have to use dict notation. Any database backend
>> can do something similar easily.
>> 
>> I'm just trying to better understand what is object-oriented about the
>> data returned from a database? What methods would we want to use?
>> 
>> JE
>> 
>> 
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