[openstack-tw] App Hackathon update meeting

Rico Lin rico.l at inwinstack.com
Fri Jan 22 08:15:23 UTC 2016


Hi Jerry
Thanks for the help.
Can you provide me the access info to your cloud? Would like to share to
the the event worker (event on 23, Jan)
I will coordinate with them for setting up the environment on top of your
OpenStack.
IMO, our next action is to make ceilometer and sahara as part of this site
after this weekend.

Also we will soon to start to discuss on the mentor assignment , let's keep
it going!!: )


2016-01-22 15:43 GMT+08:00 Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw>:

> Hi Rico,
>   After testing, our current network setting has some conflict with ceilometer,
> so we won't be able to provide it.
>   But neutron is ready.
>   We will expand the resource pool to 16 nodes today, then I believe our
> platform is ready for the competition.
>   Please let us know what to prepare next.
>
> thx
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rico,
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Rico Lin <rico.l at inwinstack.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jerry
>>> Thanks so much for the update.
>>> Looking forward : )
>>>
>>> We can have sahara after this weekend, I think you already provide great
>>> environment scope for it.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-01-21 22:38 GMT+08:00 Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rico,
>>>>   A quick update, we have successfully installed and tested swift and
>>>> heat.
>>>>   We will work on ceilometer and neutron tomorrow.
>>>>   But we probably won't have time to finish sahara.
>>>>
>>>> thx
>>>> ,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rico,
>>>>>   Great, thanks!
>>>>>   We will give our best to make it work before Friday.
>>>>>
>>>>> thx
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Rico Lin <rico.l at inwinstack.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jerry
>>>>>> Thanks so much for your help. I think the site plan for event on this
>>>>>> weekend will take exactly your team's progress on these two days. Let's
>>>>>> take Friday as final point to collect the site info of your cloud :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is some volunteer doing the mentoring during event, so I think
>>>>>> we won't need to worry about it.
>>>>>> And This event is organized by
>>>>>>  Danny Ho (何育誠 <danny.h at inwinstack.com>) and 白凱仁(
>>>>>> kyle.b at inwinstack.com), I will keep update with them about the site
>>>>>> info once it's ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-01-20 20:49 GMT+08:00 Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Rico,
>>>>>>>   Our site will be available during those dates, and we can expand
>>>>>>> it to 16 nodes.
>>>>>>>   We have tested all the features in getting start and network
>>>>>>> without problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   But based on your request, we still haven't installed or tested
>>>>>>> the following services on our platform yet.
>>>>>>>   "Orchestration services, neutron,swift, heat, ceilometer, sahara"
>>>>>>>   We will try to add those services as the first priority in the
>>>>>>> next day or two, and keep you updated.
>>>>>>>   But I am not sure everything can be ready in time.
>>>>>>>   You might have to make the call based on our progress in the next
>>>>>>> few days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   If using our machine, we can be the maintainers and have someone
>>>>>>> watch over the machines during the competition.
>>>>>>> But what are the requirements for mentoring and studying?
>>>>>>> I am afraid that I won't be available this weekend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Rico Lin <rico.l at inwinstack.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jerry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I put some feedback on your previous questions, Let's discuss more
>>>>>>>> if any further ideas.
>>>>>>>> Can we use this site to support Hackathon event on 23-24, Jan.?
>>>>>>>> Which I think we can have great sample on how event will impact platform.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, we will start some OpenStack test and poc for this event. and
>>>>>>>> would really need some OpenStack Mentors and maintainers. With fallowing
>>>>>>>> tasks:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Mentors:
>>>>>>>>       - One OpenStack SDK study
>>>>>>>>       - Write simple sample code for SDK( we already have )
>>>>>>>>       - Event mentoring
>>>>>>>>    - maintainers:
>>>>>>>>    - Test platform
>>>>>>>>       - Operate and monitor platform during event.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you help me with above requests?
>>>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Currently we have installed 8 compute nodes in our platform.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     We have done a pressure test to host 20 VMs with some Hadoop
>>>>>>>>> workload on each node.
>>>>>>>>>     Each VM has 4vcpu, 2GB mem, and 40GB disk space.
>>>>>>>>>     So our current platform should be able to host 150 VMs without
>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>     We can also double the platform to 16 nodes, if more resources
>>>>>>>>> are needed.
>>>>>>>>>     So if you can provide a rough estimation of your usage that
>>>>>>>>> will be great.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *For QCT site, we plan 500+ core for VMs, I think it'll be great
>>>>>>>> for 16 nodes.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. We only have 20 public IPs available.
>>>>>>>>>     So,  either we assign only one IP to each team, or we could
>>>>>>>>> setup a VPN connection for everyone to use private IP.
>>>>>>>>>     The later option is preferred, but we need more information on
>>>>>>>>> how the network routing will be setup at the venue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *I think we can open horizon for usage, and keep public ip for
>>>>>>>> further test requests. It will be fantastic if we considering setup a VPN
>>>>>>>> for public user.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3. We already have the image for several linux OSs available in
>>>>>>>>> our platform.
>>>>>>>>>     Users can access those VM instances through ssh key.
>>>>>>>>>     Do you also plan to let the users create their own OS images
>>>>>>>>> as well?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *As we have discussed in meeting, I think we'll give user authorize
>>>>>>>> to create images. However, we can remove the authorize to delete any.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4. We are going through all the steps in the tutorial.
>>>>>>>>>     But some of them might not be supported in our platform yet,
>>>>>>>>> such as the Orchestration.
>>>>>>>>>     I will send you the complete list after verification before
>>>>>>>>> Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>>     Can you also let me know if you need all the features from the
>>>>>>>>> tutorial,
>>>>>>>>>     or only the essential ones like getting start, block storage
>>>>>>>>> are needed?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 5. We haven't installed swift in our platform yet, but it
>>>>>>>>> shouldn't a problem.
>>>>>>>>>    If it is needed, please let us know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *For 4 and 5. I think we need Orchestration services in order to
>>>>>>>> have better support for application on OpenStack. IMO, few services we
>>>>>>>> should contain: Keystone, Cinder, glance, neutron,nova, swift, heat,
>>>>>>>> ceilometer, sahara(optional)*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 6. Finally, do you know what kind of applications will be
>>>>>>>>> developed from this up-coming hackathon?
>>>>>>>>>    Just do get some idea what to expect or how they gonna use the
>>>>>>>>> platform.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *My best guess is each team will have separated project and user
>>>>>>>> who capable to create a bunch auto-scalable VMs with LBaaS on top. Reading
>>>>>>>> data set from swift to application, and do what ever they wanted with it.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thx,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Michael Jenkins <
>>>>>>>>> md.jenkins at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Jerry. I’m looking forward to your review of the
>>>>>>>>>> procedures and feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 15 Jan 2016, at 15:47 , Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>>>>>   I think this is a great idea!
>>>>>>>>>>   I can give it a try on our testbed, and do some pressure test
>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>   Since we have limited public IPs from school, we will only
>>>>>>>>>> provide the private IP access.
>>>>>>>>>>   If everything works out, I can also help on running the
>>>>>>>>>> workshop on this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Michael Jenkins <
>>>>>>>>>> md.jenkins at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Jerry,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One possible way to proceed would be to consider adopting the *Building
>>>>>>>>>>> Your First App on OpenStack*
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://developer.openstack.org/firstapp-libcloud/getting_started.html> guide
>>>>>>>>>>> to assess and educate. David has suggested it might be possible to run a
>>>>>>>>>>> workshop during the week leading up to the hackathon and using the guide.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think about this approach?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/build-and-operate-your-first-openstack-application
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Jan 2016, at 01:12 , Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>>>>>>   Yes, it is certainly possible to use it for pre-screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>   Once you have more details about the competency test, we can
>>>>>>>>>>> try to work it out for the best we can.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Michael Jenkins <
>>>>>>>>>>> md.jenkins at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the generous offer to use SSCloud for training
>>>>>>>>>>>> and testing. I’m sure we can benefit from the early use of your platform.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m curious — would there be a way we could use your system to help
>>>>>>>>>>>> pre-screen participants (i.e. create a participant competency test) to help
>>>>>>>>>>>> evaluate knowledge/experience levels?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m in support of your suggestion about having the chairs
>>>>>>>>>>>> create a judging criteria. I believe that David Flanders has also started
>>>>>>>>>>>> compiling some thoughts along this same line; and would like to coordinate
>>>>>>>>>>>> amongst the four of you along with ITRI/IDOT/MOEA and QCT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Jan 2016, at 21:09 , Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>   As mentioned in the meetup today, NTHU is hosting a openstack
>>>>>>>>>>>> platform called SSCloud (
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.unicloud.org.tw/services/sscloud).
>>>>>>>>>>>>   We are glad to offer it as a training and testing platform.
>>>>>>>>>>>>   You may find the user manual and hardware spec on the webpage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>   If you need any further information, please feel free to
>>>>>>>>>>>> contact me
>>>>>>>>>>>>   or our technical supporting staff "Chen-Hao Ku" (
>>>>>>>>>>>> jhku at sslab.cs.nthu.edu.tw)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   For judging, I also suggest to let the chairs of three tracks
>>>>>>>>>>>> to gather a list of judging criteria in their own area as a guideline for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the competition, while the topic, data, tools and devices can keep open to
>>>>>>>>>>>> inspire more creativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>   For instance, from the point of "system", we would like to
>>>>>>>>>>>> see the application is built on top of a backend solution with HA, load
>>>>>>>>>>>> balance and elasticity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>   If we have a agreement on this idea, I can give you my
>>>>>>>>>>>> concrete list by the weekend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:37 PM, David F Flanders <
>>>>>>>>>>>> flanders at openstack.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > In addition to the video are the notes from the meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Please feel invited to reply with questions/suggestions using
>>>>>>>>>>>> inline reply:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Attendees: Michael, Rico, Tom, Anita, Danny, Jack, Allen, Dr
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chung, Christopher, Dr Lai, Flanders (video conf)
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 1. Update by Project Manager (Michael)
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Welcome the large group on experts
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> introduced the hackathon and current status to the group
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Idea began back in October to help increase awareness of
>>>>>>>>>>>> building applications (mobile, web, etc.)
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> This will be the first application hackathon (alpha)
>>>>>>>>>>>> which OpenStack will run.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Many events around the world will be run by OpenStack
>>>>>>>>>>>> community based on this first event.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 2. Site Selection
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Michael introduced the two different sites
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Dates of event and numbers of people will be decided once
>>>>>>>>>>>> a venue is selected.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Potential use of Airforce Base or Hack space in Taipai
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Hoping to have a venue selected by end of the week
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Hoping to have Hackathon mid March
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 3. Development Objective & Event Theme
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Michael introduced the Smart Commerce development
>>>>>>>>>>>> objectives
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Application developer problem scope: smart commerce apps
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> potential to use iBeacon and 4G/LTE technologies for
>>>>>>>>>>>> tracking shoppers.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> we will have a call for volunteers to support the event
>>>>>>>>>>>> and technology hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> request for judging panel and team leads (mentors)
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> rough estimate: 40-50 teams of teams 3-6 people. Judging
>>>>>>>>>>>> in parallel, like american idol?
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Hoping that University Profs and/or Students able to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> judges and/or mentors
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Encourage professors to invite their students to
>>>>>>>>>>>> participate.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Encouraging industry to send their best developers to
>>>>>>>>>>>> lead (mentor) teams
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> How can participants utiilse the 4G/LTE+iBeacon
>>>>>>>>>>>> technology on site at the hackathon?
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Looking for partners to connect the devices to OpenStack
>>>>>>>>>>>> directly.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Discussion:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Professor Zhen: good topic, current trend, MOEA, data
>>>>>>>>>>>> analytics - availability of suitable data is very crucial,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Youbike data - from yuan hua
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> open test space
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> would advise to have pre-built images
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> basic tools - only fundamentals - save some time, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> leave room to develop advanced things
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> originality constraint in the judging
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> only provide dataset, etc
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Judging criteria discussion: emphasize the goal -
>>>>>>>>>>>> creativity, scalability etc; publish rules online - eg what can you do
>>>>>>>>>>>> beforehand; disclosure form - what did you do beforehand; constrain and
>>>>>>>>>>>> encourage; put everything in a github repo; any restrictions on IoT
>>>>>>>>>>>> devices? eg propreitary devices; focus on development effort; recommended
>>>>>>>>>>>> devices/ not recommended devices; open source devices recommended
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 4. Technology constraints and options:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Request for suggestions on which companies are likely to
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to participate
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Datasets are a good way to frame a hack event.  Such as
>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Data Taiwan
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Potential shopper datasets being made available?
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> All technology teams will need to use OpenStack as the
>>>>>>>>>>>> platform for their application.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 5.) Vendors for iBeacon/4G technology?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> mediatek
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> advantek
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> foxconn
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Intel
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 4. Judges, Mentorship & Volunteer Organisation
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> request for more ideas on what the problem scope should
>>>>>>>>>>>> be for the different hack teams.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> need to write up engaging set of problems (hack
>>>>>>>>>>>> challenges + mentors) so participants are inspired to engage as team.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> request for mentors who have used the technology
>>>>>>>>>>>> beforehand and have an idea for what kind of problem they want to solve
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> Two rounds of judging - first make a shortlist, then have
>>>>>>>>>>>> full panel of judging for the final awards.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> university and industry experts act as mentors.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> mentors lead teams
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> prizes are a motivating factor to just sign up, they
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't end up being the thing people remember as valuable from the event.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> most valuable prize would be getting to go to OpenStack
>>>>>>>>>>>> summit as a team?
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> use cases for engaging the wider public (marketting):
>>>>>>>>>>>> help promote international shopping, ease of shopping experience, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> need mentors who are inspired by how shopping could be
>>>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 5. Cloud - Key outcomes
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> key learning outcome is to understand the cloud and it
>>>>>>>>>>>> potential for building new scalable apps that will work with larger
>>>>>>>>>>>> audiences
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> What will students want to achieve as part of this
>>>>>>>>>>>> hackathon, what value do they get after working all weekend long?
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> What can we do in advance to prepare participants?
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --> hackathon main aim shouldn't be a competition, it should
>>>>>>>>>>>> be an experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:55 PM, David F Flanders <
>>>>>>>>>>>> flanders at openstack.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> About to start the hangout meeting (in five minutes).
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Please, we invite you to join the meeting here:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/events/cko4nle4teloim9k05smfu4ml6o
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Rico Lin <
>>>>>>>>>>>> rico.l at inwinstack.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> The Hangout group for this meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Link:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/events/cko4nle4teloim9k05smfu4ml6o
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Jan 11, 2016 7:37 PM, "Michael Jenkins" <
>>>>>>>>>>>> md.jenkins at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Thank you Andre for the support of QCT and we look forward
>>>>>>>>>>>> to including Danny, Lynette, and Jack to the growing team.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 18:38 , Andre Hu (胡明德) <Andre.hu at qct.io>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Hello Rico,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Thanks for meeting info.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> QCT will have following persons to attend the meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow.  Please excuse me not to be able to attend tomorrow meeting due
>>>>>>>>>>>> to prior meeting commitment.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Senior marketing director: Danny
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Marketing deputy mgr: Lynette
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Quanta Data Center mgr: Jack Ong
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Andre Hu
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> QCT
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> +886 963 919 108
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> www.qct.io
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> From: Rico Lin [mailto:rico.l at inwinstack.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 5:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> To: David F Flanders
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Cc: Vincent S. Tseng; 楊傑文; Michael Jenkins; AvengerMoJo
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex; ychung at cs.nthu.edu.tw; hungsh at csie.ntu.edu.tw; Minolu
>>>>>>>>>>>> .C; 王惠民; Andre Hu (胡明德); Jerry Chou;
>>>>>>>>>>>> openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org; yehching.chung at gmail.com;
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fred Chien
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [openstack-tw] App Hackathon update meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Meeting Time: Tuesday, 2016/1/12
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Meeting host: Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Meeting will be at room 447 in EECS building, National
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsing Hua University.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> One more minor agenda item:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> 8. Active Open App Developer Communities in Taiwan who
>>>>>>>>>>>> might want to collaborate?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> A quick look at the Meetup.com <http://meetup.com/> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taiwan shows the following as potential communities we could invite?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Taipai Python User Group
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Taipai R User Group
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ElasticGroup Taipai
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Taiwan Java User Group
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Rails Taiwan
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Startup Taiwan
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Best, Flanders
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Michael Jenkins <
>>>>>>>>>>>> md.jenkins at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Thank you Tom for your thoughts. I spoke with Rico about
>>>>>>>>>>>> the agenda and feel that the meeting should only last 1.5 hrs. Originally I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was pressed for time but have been able to adjust my schedule to allow
>>>>>>>>>>>> ample time at NTHU, so I will not be rushed to return to Taipei for my next
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Let’s try to keep the meeting to 1.5 hrs and ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>> update on progress for the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> 1. Site selection
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> 2. Development objective and event theme
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> 3. Mentor and volunteer organization
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> 4. Event support staff organization
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> 5. Judges and registration
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> 6. Schedule tracking and progress
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> 7. Any other items
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 12:55 , Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Just to clarify the agenda. So far I didn't see a topic
>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed from NTHU?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         Confirming Location
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> o    We will have a site survey on Monday, so we should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> able to select site by Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         Organizing Volunteer group
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> o    We have some great volunteers list in etherpad. We
>>>>>>>>>>>> also have some others sponsors and professors. According to schedule,
>>>>>>>>>>>> sponsorship searching should be closed at the end of January (IIRC). Since
>>>>>>>>>>>> we probably will start some detail working, it will be great if we can
>>>>>>>>>>>> conform the commits from each other, so works can be dispatched.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         tech topic
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         Opening registry?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         Any topic, please reply and add on mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Also, 2 hours seems like a long time for an update meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Last time one hour was sufficient. Michael, as the meeting chair, what do
>>>>>>>>>>>> you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> As always, we should post any updates on the mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> to allow people to read before the meeting. This way we can keep the
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting short and to the point.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On 10/01/16 20:31, Rico Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Thanks Micheal, but this is mostly professor Chung's
>>>>>>>>>>>> arrangement.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Meeting will be at room 447 in EECS building, National
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsing Hua University.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Professor Chung and a lot of professors will join this
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting there. It will be nice if Michael and others can join this meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> The room can contains 40+ people. This meeting also will be
>>>>>>>>>>>> a hangout meeting for others who really can't join this meeting in NTHU.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Jan 10, 2016 2:13 PM, "Michael Jenkins" <
>>>>>>>>>>>> md.jenkins at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Hi Rico, thank you for coordinating this important meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll need to adjust my schedule for Tuesday and will be able to attend the
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting at 10am.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Could you please let me know the exact meeting location?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:15 , Rico Lin <rico.l at inwinstack.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Dear all
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Thanks very much for prof. Chung's arrangement. There will
>>>>>>>>>>>> be a meeting in NTHU at 10am on Tuesday.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Apologies for any  inconvenient, but we should change the
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting time to Tuesday with Prof. Chung's meeting and merge all topics
>>>>>>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Michael, are you available that time?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Propose to have a meeting next Wednesday morning 10-12 am.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This meeting should hosted by Micheal, our project manager for this event
>>>>>>>>>>>> who get to control topics and schedule during meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> How we host this meeting: a hangout meeting will be nice.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> In the meeting, we can have chance to decide fallowing
>>>>>>>>>>>> things:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         Confirming Location
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> o    We will have a side survey on Monday, so we should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> able to select site by Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         Organizing Volunteer group
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> o    We have some great volunteers list in etherpad. We
>>>>>>>>>>>> also have some others sponsors and professors. According to schedule,
>>>>>>>>>>>> sponsorship searching should be closed at the end of January (IIRC). Since
>>>>>>>>>>>> we probably will start some detail working, it will be great if we can
>>>>>>>>>>>> conform the commits from each other, so works can be dispatched.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         tech topic
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         Opening registry?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         Any topic, please reply and add on mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Thanks for the hard works by Prof. Chung and other
>>>>>>>>>>>> Professors, we now have big supports from academic including fallowing
>>>>>>>>>>>> university:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         National Taiwan University,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         National Tsing Hua University,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ·         National Chiao Tung University
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> We should have a good chance to get around all guys and
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a good chance to share with each other and work on above items.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Also would like to invite everyone subscribe on this
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing group
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw
>>>>>>>>>>>> so we can have everyone to joining all discussion for event.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> openstack-tw mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> openstack-tw mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> openstack-tw mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> openstack-tw mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> openstack-tw mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Chou
>>>>>>>>>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Science Department
>>>>>>>>>>>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Chou
>>>>>>>>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Science Department
>>>>>>>>>>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> openstack-tw mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Chou
>>>>>>>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>>>>>>> Computer Science Department
>>>>>>>>>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> openstack-tw mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jerry Chou
>>>>>>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>>>>>> Computer Science Department
>>>>>>>>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Rico Lin*
>>>>>>>> <http://www.inwinstack.com>
>>>>>>>> 迎棧科技股份有限公司
>>>>>>>> │ 886-963-612-021
>>>>>>>>rico.l at inwinstack.com
>>>>>>>> │ 886-2-7738-6804 #7754
>>>>>>>> │ 新北市220板橋區遠東路3號5樓C室
>>>>>>>> Rm.C, 5F., No.3, Yuandong Rd.,
>>>>>>>> Banqiao Dist., New Taipei City 220, Taiwan (R.O.C)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> openstack-tw mailing list
>>>>>>>> openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jerry Chou
>>>>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>>>> Computer Science Department
>>>>>>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Rico Lin*
>>>>>> <http://www.inwinstack.com>
>>>>>> 迎棧科技股份有限公司
>>>>>> │ 886-963-612-021
>>>>>>rico.l at inwinstack.com
>>>>>> │ 886-2-7738-6804 #7754
>>>>>> │ 新北市220板橋區遠東路3號5樓C室
>>>>>> Rm.C, 5F., No.3, Yuandong Rd.,
>>>>>> Banqiao Dist., New Taipei City 220, Taiwan (R.O.C)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> openstack-tw mailing list
>>>>>> openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jerry Chou
>>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>> Computer Science Department
>>>>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jerry Chou
>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>> Computer Science Department
>>>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> *Rico Lin*
>>> <http://www.inwinstack.com>
>>> 迎棧科技股份有限公司
>>> │ 886-963-612-021
>>>rico.l at inwinstack.com
>>> │ 886-2-7738-6804 #7754
>>> │ 新北市220板橋區遠東路3號5樓C室
>>> Rm.C, 5F., No.3, Yuandong Rd.,
>>> Banqiao Dist., New Taipei City 220, Taiwan (R.O.C)
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> openstack-tw mailing list
>>> openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Chou
>> Assistant Professor
>> Computer Science Department
>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jerry Chou
> Assistant Professor
> Computer Science Department
> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>



-- 
Best regards,

*Rico Lin*
<http://www.inwinstack.com>
迎棧科技股份有限公司
│ 886-963-612-021
│ rico.l at inwinstack.com
│ 886-2-7738-6804 #7754
│ 新北市220板橋區遠東路3號5樓C室
Rm.C, 5F., No.3, Yuandong Rd.,
Banqiao Dist., New Taipei City 220, Taiwan (R.O.C)
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