[openstack-tw] App Hackathon update meeting

Jerry Chou jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw
Fri Jan 15 08:03:15 UTC 2016


Hi Rico,
  Jan. (23-25)  is a a pretty tight schedule.
  But please give me a few days and hopefully I can bring you some positive
answer by next Wednesday.
  Sounds good?

thx.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw> wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>   I think this is a great idea!
>   I can give it a try on our testbed, and do some pressure test first.
>   Since we have limited public IPs from school, we will only provide the
> private IP access.
>   If everything works out, I can also help on running the workshop on this.
>
> Cheers,
> Jerry
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Michael Jenkins <md.jenkins at icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jerry,
>>
>> One possible way to proceed would be to consider adopting the *Building
>> Your First App on OpenStack*
>> <http://developer.openstack.org/firstapp-libcloud/getting_started.html> guide
>> to assess and educate. David has suggested it might be possible to run a
>> workshop during the week leading up to the hackathon and using the guide.
>>
>> What do you think about this approach?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michael
>>
>> Video:
>> https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/build-and-operate-your-first-openstack-application
>>
>> On 14 Jan 2016, at 01:12 , Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>   Yes, it is certainly possible to use it for pre-screen.
>>   Once you have more details about the competency test, we can try to
>> work it out for the best we can.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Michael Jenkins <md.jenkins at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jerry,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the generous offer to use SSCloud for training and
>>> testing. I’m sure we can benefit from the early use of your platform. I’m
>>> curious — would there be a way we could use your system to help pre-screen
>>> participants (i.e. create a participant competency test) to help evaluate
>>> knowledge/experience levels?
>>>
>>> I’m in support of your suggestion about having the chairs create a
>>> judging criteria. I believe that David Flanders has also started compiling
>>> some thoughts along this same line; and would like to coordinate amongst
>>> the four of you along with ITRI/IDOT/MOEA and QCT.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On 12 Jan 2016, at 21:09 , Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>   As mentioned in the meetup today, NTHU is hosting a openstack platform
>>> called SSCloud (https://www.unicloud.org.tw/services/sscloud).
>>>   We are glad to offer it as a training and testing platform.
>>>   You may find the user manual and hardware spec on the webpage.
>>>   If you need any further information, please feel free to contact me
>>>   or our technical supporting staff "Chen-Hao Ku" (
>>> jhku at sslab.cs.nthu.edu.tw)
>>>
>>>   For judging, I also suggest to let the chairs of three tracks to
>>> gather a list of judging criteria in their own area as a guideline for the
>>> competition, while the topic, data, tools and devices can keep open to
>>> inspire more creativity.
>>>   For instance, from the point of "system", we would like to see the
>>> application is built on top of a backend solution with HA, load balance and
>>> elasticity.
>>>   If we have a agreement on this idea, I can give you my concrete list
>>> by the weekend.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:37 PM, David F Flanders <
>>> flanders at openstack.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > In addition to the video are the notes from the meeting below.
>>> > Please feel invited to reply with questions/suggestions using inline
>>> reply:
>>> >
>>> > Attendees: Michael, Rico, Tom, Anita, Danny, Jack, Allen, Dr Chung,
>>> Christopher, Dr Lai, Flanders (video conf)
>>> >
>>> > 1. Update by Project Manager (Michael)
>>> > --> Welcome the large group on experts
>>> > --> introduced the hackathon and current status to the group
>>> > --> Idea began back in October to help increase awareness of building
>>> applications (mobile, web, etc.)
>>> > --> This will be the first application hackathon (alpha) which
>>> OpenStack will run.
>>> > --> Many events around the world will be run by OpenStack community
>>> based on this first event.
>>> >
>>> > 2. Site Selection
>>> > --> Michael introduced the two different sites
>>> > --> Dates of event and numbers of people will be decided once a venue
>>> is selected.
>>> > --> Potential use of Airforce Base or Hack space in Taipai
>>> > --> Hoping to have a venue selected by end of the week
>>> > --> Hoping to have Hackathon mid March
>>> >
>>> > 3. Development Objective & Event Theme
>>> > --> Michael introduced the Smart Commerce development objectives
>>> > --> Application developer problem scope: smart commerce apps
>>> > --> potential to use iBeacon and 4G/LTE technologies for tracking
>>> shoppers.
>>> > --> we will have a call for volunteers to support the event and
>>> technology hardware
>>> > --> request for judging panel and team leads (mentors)
>>> > --> rough estimate: 40-50 teams of teams 3-6 people. Judging in
>>> parallel, like american idol?
>>> > --> Hoping that University Profs and/or Students able to be judges
>>> and/or mentors
>>> > --> Encourage professors to invite their students to participate.
>>> > --> Encouraging industry to send their best developers to lead
>>> (mentor) teams
>>> > --> How can participants utiilse the 4G/LTE+iBeacon technology on site
>>> at the hackathon?
>>> > --> Looking for partners to connect the devices to OpenStack directly.
>>> >
>>> > Discussion:
>>> > --> Professor Zhen: good topic, current trend, MOEA, data analytics -
>>> availability of suitable data is very crucial,
>>> > --> Youbike data - from yuan hua
>>> > --> open test space
>>> > --> would advise to have pre-built images
>>> > --> basic tools - only fundamentals - save some time, but leave room
>>> to develop advanced things
>>> > --> originality constraint in the judging
>>> > --> only provide dataset, etc
>>> > --> Judging criteria discussion: emphasize the goal - creativity,
>>> scalability etc; publish rules online - eg what can you do beforehand;
>>> disclosure form - what did you do beforehand; constrain and encourage; put
>>> everything in a github repo; any restrictions on IoT devices? eg
>>> propreitary devices; focus on development effort; recommended devices/ not
>>> recommended devices; open source devices recommended
>>> >
>>> > 4. Technology constraints and options:
>>> >
>>> > --> Request for suggestions on which companies are likely to want to
>>> participate
>>> > --> Datasets are a good way to frame a hack event.  Such as Open Data
>>> Taiwan
>>> > --> Potential shopper datasets being made available?
>>> > --> All technology teams will need to use OpenStack as the platform
>>> for their application.
>>> >
>>> > 5.) Vendors for iBeacon/4G technology?
>>> >
>>> > --> mediatek
>>> > --> advantek
>>> > --> foxconn
>>> > --> Intel
>>> >
>>> > 4. Judges, Mentorship & Volunteer Organisation
>>> > --> request for more ideas on what the problem scope should be for the
>>> different hack teams.
>>> > --> need to write up engaging set of problems (hack challenges +
>>> mentors) so participants are inspired to engage as team.
>>> > --> request for mentors who have used the technology beforehand and
>>> have an idea for what kind of problem they want to solve
>>> > --> Two rounds of judging - first make a shortlist, then have full
>>> panel of judging for the final awards.
>>> > --> university and industry experts act as mentors.
>>> > --> mentors lead teams
>>> > --> prizes are a motivating factor to just sign up, they don't end up
>>> being the thing people remember as valuable from the event.
>>> > --> most valuable prize would be getting to go to OpenStack summit as
>>> a team?
>>> > --> use cases for engaging the wider public (marketting): help promote
>>> international shopping, ease of shopping experience, etc.
>>> > --> need mentors who are inspired by how shopping could be better.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 5. Cloud - Key outcomes
>>> > --> key learning outcome is to understand the cloud and it potential
>>> for building new scalable apps that will work with larger audiences
>>> > --> What will students want to achieve as part of this hackathon, what
>>> value do they get after working all weekend long?
>>> > --> What can we do in advance to prepare participants?
>>> > --> hackathon main aim shouldn't be a competition, it should be an
>>> experience.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:55 PM, David F Flanders <
>>> flanders at openstack.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> About to start the hangout meeting (in five minutes).
>>> >> Please, we invite you to join the meeting here:
>>> https://plus.google.com/events/cko4nle4teloim9k05smfu4ml6o
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Rico Lin <rico.l at inwinstack.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The Hangout group for this meeting.
>>> >>> Link: https://plus.google.com/events/cko4nle4teloim9k05smfu4ml6o
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Jan 11, 2016 7:37 PM, "Michael Jenkins" <md.jenkins at icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thank you Andre for the support of QCT and we look forward to
>>> including Danny, Lynette, and Jack to the growing team.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best regards,
>>> >>> Michael
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 18:38 , Andre Hu (胡明德) <Andre.hu at qct.io> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hello Rico,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks for meeting info.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> QCT will have following persons to attend the meeting tomorrow.
>>> Please excuse me not to be able to attend tomorrow meeting due to prior
>>> meeting commitment.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Senior marketing director: Danny
>>> >>> Marketing deputy mgr: Lynette
>>> >>> Quanta Data Center mgr: Jack Ong
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Andre Hu
>>> >>> QCT
>>> >>> +886 963 919 108
>>> >>> www.qct.io
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: Rico Lin [mailto:rico.l at inwinstack.com]
>>> >>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 5:22 PM
>>> >>> To: David F Flanders
>>> >>> Cc: Vincent S. Tseng; 楊傑文; Michael Jenkins; AvengerMoJo Alex;
>>> ychung at cs.nthu.edu.tw; hungsh at csie.ntu.edu.tw; Minolu .C; 王惠民; Andre Hu
>>> (胡明德); Jerry Chou; openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org;
>>> yehching.chung at gmail.com; Fred Chien
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [openstack-tw] App Hackathon update meeting
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Meeting Time: Tuesday, 2016/1/12
>>> >>> Meeting host: Michael
>>> >>> Meeting will be at room 447 in EECS building, National Tsing Hua
>>> University.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> One more minor agenda item:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 8. Active Open App Developer Communities in Taiwan who might want to
>>> collaborate?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> A quick look at the Meetup.com <http://meetup.com/> for Taiwan
>>> shows the following as potential communities we could invite?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Taipai Python User Group
>>> >>> Taipai R User Group
>>> >>> ElasticGroup Taipai
>>> >>> Taiwan Java User Group
>>> >>> Rails Taiwan
>>> >>> Startup Taiwan
>>> >>> etc.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best, Flanders
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Michael Jenkins <
>>> md.jenkins at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Thank you Tom for your thoughts. I spoke with Rico about the agenda
>>> and feel that the meeting should only last 1.5 hrs. Originally I was
>>> pressed for time but have been able to adjust my schedule to allow ample
>>> time at NTHU, so I will not be rushed to return to Taipei for my next
>>> meeting.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Let’s try to keep the meeting to 1.5 hrs and ready to update on
>>> progress for the following:
>>> >>> 1. Site selection
>>> >>> 2. Development objective and event theme
>>> >>> 3. Mentor and volunteer organization
>>> >>> 4. Event support staff organization
>>> >>> 5. Judges and registration
>>> >>> 6. Schedule tracking and progress
>>> >>> 7. Any other items
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best regards,
>>> >>> Michael
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 12:55 , Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Just to clarify the agenda. So far I didn't see a topic proposed
>>> from NTHU?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ·         Confirming Location
>>> >>> o    We will have a site survey on Monday, so we should be able to
>>> select site by Wednesday.
>>> >>> ·         Organizing Volunteer group
>>> >>> o    We have some great volunteers list in etherpad. We also have
>>> some others sponsors and professors. According to schedule, sponsorship
>>> searching should be closed at the end of January (IIRC). Since we probably
>>> will start some detail working, it will be great if we can conform the
>>> commits from each other, so works can be dispatched.
>>> >>> ·         tech topic
>>> >>> ·         Opening registry?
>>> >>> ·         Any topic, please reply and add on mailing list.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Also, 2 hours seems like a long time for an update meeting. Last
>>> time one hour was sufficient. Michael, as the meeting chair, what do you
>>> think?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As always, we should post any updates on the mailing list to allow
>>> people to read before the meeting. This way we can keep the meeting short
>>> and to the point.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Tom
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 10/01/16 20:31, Rico Lin wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks Micheal, but this is mostly professor Chung's arrangement.
>>> >>> Meeting will be at room 447 in EECS building, National Tsing Hua
>>> University.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Professor Chung and a lot of professors will join this meeting
>>> there. It will be nice if Michael and others can join this meeting there.
>>> >>> The room can contains 40+ people. This meeting also will be a
>>> hangout meeting for others who really can't join this meeting in NTHU.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Jan 10, 2016 2:13 PM, "Michael Jenkins" <md.jenkins at icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> Hi Rico, thank you for coordinating this important meeting. I’ll
>>> need to adjust my schedule for Tuesday and will be able to attend the
>>> meeting at 10am.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could you please let me know the exact meeting location?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best regards,
>>> >>> Michael
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:15 , Rico Lin <rico.l at inwinstack.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Dear all
>>> >>> Thanks very much for prof. Chung's arrangement. There will be a
>>> meeting in NTHU at 10am on Tuesday.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Apologies for any  inconvenient, but we should change the meeting
>>> time to Tuesday with Prof. Chung's meeting and merge all topics together.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Michael, are you available that time?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Propose to have a meeting next Wednesday morning 10-12 am. This
>>> meeting should hosted by Micheal, our project manager for this event who
>>> get to control topics and schedule during meeting.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> How we host this meeting: a hangout meeting will be nice.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In the meeting, we can have chance to decide fallowing things:
>>> >>> ·         Confirming Location
>>> >>> o    We will have a side survey on Monday, so we should be able to
>>> select site by Wednesday.
>>> >>> ·         Organizing Volunteer group
>>> >>> o    We have some great volunteers list in etherpad. We also have
>>> some others sponsors and professors. According to schedule, sponsorship
>>> searching should be closed at the end of January (IIRC). Since we probably
>>> will start some detail working, it will be great if we can conform the
>>> commits from each other, so works can be dispatched.
>>> >>> ·         tech topic
>>> >>> ·         Opening registry?
>>> >>> ·         Any topic, please reply and add on mailing list.
>>> >>> Thanks for the hard works by Prof. Chung and other Professors, we
>>> now have big supports from academic including fallowing university:
>>> >>> ·         National Taiwan University,
>>> >>> ·         National Tsing Hua University,
>>> >>> ·         National Chiao Tung University
>>> >>> We should have a good chance to get around all guys and have a good
>>> chance to share with each other and work on above items.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Also would like to invite everyone subscribe on this mailing group
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw so we
>>> can have everyone to joining all discussion for event.
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Chou
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> Computer Science Department
>>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Jerry Chou
>> Assistant Professor
>> Computer Science Department
>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
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Jerry Chou
Assistant Professor
Computer Science Department
National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
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