[Openstack-track-chairs] [E] Re: [OpenStack-track-chairs] what to do with operator talks?

beth.cohen at verizon.com beth.cohen at verizon.com
Mon Feb 19 14:32:56 UTC 2018


Folks -
Agree with Allison here.  I struggle with the blurred lines between the sessions that push forward the development and use cases and the operational issues of running OpenStack.  Since there are few edge deployments yet I would expect that field knowledge is very valuable, but somewhat rare.  Many of the sessions that Allison has listed below are from vendors who have written tools.  We seems to swing the OS tracks wildly between general tracks aligned with technology, with tracks aligned with operations.   I don't have the answer as to which way is the right one.  I suspect it is something in the middle.  Seems we swung very heavily to the technology track this time around.



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Subject: [E] Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] what to do with operator talks?

A few more examples, some of which have "Edge" in the title but are really more general OpenStack deployment or operations talks:

- Residual device scrubber for volume in Edge Computing
- Automated Operation and Maintenance in Edge Computing
- Toward an analysis of the OpenStack deployment process
- Bring your IOT device directly to your cloud network
- Intent Based Policy to Secure Applications Across OpenStack, K8s & BMS Environment (Multi-Cloud)
- Three ARMed OpenStack - Building and Performance Testing OpenStack on ARM
- The Rise of the Distributed Database
- Distributed Tracing for continuous improvement of OpenStack-based Cloud Services
- OpenStack OSProfiler Overview: What is it? How does it work?
- Deploying OpenStack Swift using TripleO

And maybe also:

- Deploying to the Edge
- Deploy Your React Application While Saving Time and Energy

On 02/18/2018 11:49 PM, Gary Kevorkian (gkevorki) wrote:
> Here’s one we weren’t sure what to do with…
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> /Integrating Skydive & Dragonflow and Staying Alive/
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> In the end, we kept it in Community because it does talk about how the 
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> *From: *Jimmy McArthur <jimmy at openstack.org>
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> *To: *"Gary Kevorkian (gkevorki)" <gkevorki at cisco.com>
> *Cc: *Allison Randal <allison at lohutok.net>, 
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> *Subject: *Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] what to do with operator talks?
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> This is great feedback. I'm going to discuss this with our team and 
> see what we can come up with.  Can y'all provide a few examples?
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> Thanks!
> Jimmy
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>     Gary Kevorkian (gkevorki) <mailto:gkevorki at cisco.com>
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>     Operator-centric talks aren’t the only ones. At future Summits, we
>     may need to embrace the “Grab Bag” track that I’ve seen at other
>     events. ☺
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>     At previous Summits, did we have an Operators track? There seem to be a
>     large number of talks scattered across the tracks that are basically
>     just tips, tricks, and best practices for operating an OpenStack cloud.
>     The track chairs for all the tracks keep trying to kick these talks to
>     other tracks, but they don't seem to really fit anywhere, so the move
>     requests get repeatedly rejected.
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>     I don't really have a solution, I'm just making an observation that we
>     may not be serving our operator audience well if these talks all get
>     dropped just because they don't seem to match any current tracks.
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>     Allison Randal <mailto:allison at lohutok.net>
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>     February 18, 2018 at 2:10 PM
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>     At previous Summits, did we have an Operators track? There seem to be a
>     large number of talks scattered across the tracks that are basically
>     just tips, tricks, and best practices for operating an OpenStack cloud.
>     The track chairs for all the tracks keep trying to kick these talks to
>     other tracks, but they don't seem to really fit anywhere, so the move
>     requests get repeatedly rejected.
> 
>     I don't really have a solution, I'm just making an observation that we
>     may not be serving our operator audience well if these talks all get
>     dropped just because they don't seem to match any current tracks.
> 
>     Allison
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