Open Stack

That does become a big issue when people *pay* to attend, more so if it's a
hands-on workshop and they have to pay extra. The onus is on track chairs
to make sure people are getting a good value for their money.

Best,
Ruben

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Gary Kevorkian (gkevorki) <
gkevorki at cisco.com> wrote:

> That may be true of presenters new to the Summit. People who have been
> around for a while (damn…starting to sound like an old-timer) know that
> those presos don’t fly.
>
> I also run the OpenStack L.A. Meetup and I’ve had a couple of presenters
> come in and give talks that were vastly different (product pitches) from
> the abstracts they initially submitted. The nice thing is that I didn’t
> have to do a thing…my group turned on them for me. :)
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> From: "Ruben D. Orduz" <rubenoz at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, February 13, 2017 at 9:51 AM
> To: Mark Collier <mark at openstack.org>
> Cc: "openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org" <
> openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org>, "SaintRossy, James" <
> James_SaintRossy at comcast.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Guidance on Vendor Specific
> Presentations?
>
> Taking the obvious/outliers out of the convo, given the issues we have (as
> I expressed in an earlier email) a suboptimal and highly subjective
> process, it's really a crap-shot whether a talk will be a vendorfest or not
> based on two paragraphs and 4 bullet points.
>
> Best,
> Ruben
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Mark Collier <mark at openstack.org> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On February 13, 2017 11:44:40 AM "Ferry, Courtney (Contractor)" <
>> Courtney_Ferry at comcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed on sales pitches passed off as presentations being a bad thing –
>>> I’ve walked out on a few.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have attended presentations from vendors that were good, however, when
>>> the sales pitch was kept to the last 5 minutes of the talk.  The ones that
>>> worked for me were given by vendors that provided a supported version of an
>>> OpenStack project and gave a talk or lab on that project.  If they keep the
>>> bulk of the presentation to the open source technology, then give their
>>> product a plug at the end, I think it’s cool.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Courtney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Mark Collier <mark at openstack.org>
>>> *Date: *Monday, February 13, 2017 at 12:25 PM
>>> *To: *"Ruben D. Orduz" <rubenoz at gmail.com>, "SaintRossy, James" <
>>> James_SaintRossy at cable.comcast.com>
>>> *Cc: *"openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org" <
>>> openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Guidance on Vendor Specific
>>> Presentations?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm my opinion, straight up sales pitches are bad.
>>>
>>> That said, if a particular technology is widely adopted as part of
>>> Openstack clouds out in the world (like a plug in), I could see how an
>>> expert on the technology could provide value for attendees by talking about
>>> it at the summit, even if that technology is closed source. People who'd
>>> never consider a closed source plug in would simply not attend that
>>> session.
>>>
>>> So I guess I'd say it's not black and white, more about whether there's
>>> a significant audience for the topic and if the speaker has the expertise
>>> to convey it.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents
>>>
>>> On February 13, 2017 10:48:21 AM "Ruben D. Orduz" <rubenoz at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, it absolutely should have bearing. I vaguely remember in the
>>> initial guidance email it specifies that we should not select proposals
>>> that are perceived as sales pitches or vendor specific.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Ruben
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:29 AM, SaintRossy, James <
>>> James_SaintRossy at comcast.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m a 1st time track chair so pardon my ignorance if this question seems
>>> obvious.  In my initial review for the storage track I see several
>>> presentations that are vendor specific and possibly closed source.  Should
>>> that have any bearing on our evaluations?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, James.
>>>
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