From doug at doughellmann.com Fri Aug 17 17:31:41 2018 From: doug at doughellmann.com (Doug Hellmann) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:31:41 -0400 Subject: [openstack-tc] Fwd: Calendar placeholder for the OpenStack Board and Joint Leadership meetings, Berlin November 12 -All Day References: Message-ID: <660E0300-C373-4D31-A16B-63B0F312CEB4@doughellmann.com> TC members, if you are planning to attend the summit in Berlin please include this meeting on 12 November (the Monday before the summit) in your travel schedule. Doug > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Alan Clark > Subject: Calendar placeholder for the OpenStack Board and Joint Leadership meetings, Berlin November 12 -All Day > Date: August 17, 2018 at 1:03:46 PM EDT > To: Allison Randal , Anni Lai , "Arkady_Kanevsky at DELL.com" , Boris Renski , Brian Stein , ChangBo Guo , Egle Sigler , Imad Sousou , Johan Christenson , "Jonathan Bryce" , Joseph WANG , "Julia Dechance (jbarbosa)" , Kandan Kathirvel , Kenji Kaneshige , "Kurt Garloff (t-systems at garloff.de)" , Lauren Sell , Lew Tucker , Liana Greenberg , Mark Collier , "Mark McLoughlin" , Mark Radcliffe , "Prakash Ramchandran (pramchan at yahoo.com)" , "Price, Christopher" , Rob Esker , "'ruanhe(Ruan HE)'" , Shane Wang , Steven Dake , "Taylor, Monty" , "Tim Bell" , Doug Hellmann , "Mohammed Naser" > > This is a placeholder for the OpenStack Board and Joint Leadership meetings at the Berlin OpenStack Summit on November 12. > > Please block your calendar for 9am – 5pm Berlin timezone > > This appointment will be updated at a later time with meeting location, agenda and additional information. > > Thanks, > AlanClark > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From thierry at openstack.org Wed Aug 22 09:40:03 2018 From: thierry at openstack.org (Thierry Carrez) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 11:40:03 +0200 Subject: [openstack-tc] Proposed PTG post-lunch presentation schedule Message-ID: Hi, As mentioned on channel, we need to decide ASAP the content of post-lunch presentations at the PTG, if only to let the volunteers there know that they need to work on their content :) Based on the submissions on the etherpad, the current proposal is as follows: Monday: Welcome to the PTG Welcome / Ops meetup intro / Housekeeping / Community update / Set stage for the week / Present Stein goals (ttx, mnaser, kendallW) Tuesday: Two presentation on tools Storyboard demo (diablo_rojo), Simplifying backports with git-deps and git-explode (aspiers). Each will get 10min + 5min Q&A Wednesday: Three general talks: Release management (smcginnis), Project navigator (jimmymcarthur), Tech vision statement intro (zaneb, cdent). Each will get 10min including Q&A. Thursday: PTG : present and future Future of PTGs in 2019 + feedback session on this PTG (jbryce, ttx) Friday: Lightning talks Sphinx in OpenStack (stephenfin) / Team updates... / Anything... Each will get 5min. Let me know ASAP if there is any issue with this. Otherwise I'll post to the -dev list and communicate with the various speakers later this week. -- Thierry From doug at doughellmann.com Wed Aug 22 12:45:04 2018 From: doug at doughellmann.com (Doug Hellmann) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:45:04 -0400 Subject: [openstack-tc] Proposed PTG post-lunch presentation schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > On Aug 22, 2018, at 5:40 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Hi, > > As mentioned on channel, we need to decide ASAP the content of post-lunch presentations at the PTG, if only to let the volunteers there know that they need to work on their content :) Based on the submissions on the etherpad, the current proposal is as follows: > > Monday: Welcome to the PTG > Welcome / Ops meetup intro / Housekeeping / Community update / Set stage for the week / Present Stein goals (ttx, mnaser, kendallW) > > Tuesday: Two presentation on tools > Storyboard demo (diablo_rojo), Simplifying backports with git-deps and git-explode (aspiers). Each will get 10min + 5min Q&A > > Wednesday: Three general talks: Release management (smcginnis), Project navigator (jimmymcarthur), Tech vision statement intro (zaneb, cdent). Each will get 10min including Q&A. > > Thursday: PTG : present and future > Future of PTGs in 2019 + feedback session on this PTG (jbryce, ttx) > > Friday: Lightning talks > Sphinx in OpenStack (stephenfin) / Team updates... / Anything... Each will get 5min. > > Let me know ASAP if there is any issue with this. Otherwise I'll post to the -dev list and communicate with the various speakers later this week. > > -- > Thierry > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-TC mailing list > OpenStack-TC at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tc This seems like a good program with plenty of variety and useful topics. +1 From fungi at yuggoth.org Wed Aug 22 14:43:48 2018 From: fungi at yuggoth.org (Jeremy Stanley) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 14:43:48 +0000 Subject: [openstack-tc] Proposed PTG post-lunch presentation schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180822144348.4xa2nipj77q3b372@yuggoth.org> On 2018-08-22 11:40:03 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: [...] > Friday: Lightning talks > Sphinx in OpenStack (stephenfin) / Team updates... / Anything... Each will > get 5min. [...] I like there's the possibility for teams to do an unconference sort of agenda for these and just get up and talk about/present what they worked on throughout the week. -- Jeremy Stanley -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Each will get 10min + 5min Q&A > > Wednesday: Three general talks: Release management (smcginnis), Project > navigator (jimmymcarthur), Tech vision statement intro (zaneb, cdent). Each > will get 10min including Q&A. > > Thursday: PTG : present and future > Future of PTGs in 2019 + feedback session on this PTG (jbryce, ttx) > > Friday: Lightning talks > Sphinx in OpenStack (stephenfin) / Team updates... / Anything... Each will > get 5min. Any chance one of these sessions can be replaced with a TC candidates Q&A? It seems like a great opportunity to me. Yours Tony. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Let me see what our options are... -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) From doug at doughellmann.com Thu Aug 23 12:52:44 2018 From: doug at doughellmann.com (Doug Hellmann) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 08:52:44 -0400 Subject: [openstack-tc] Create Stein PTL election tag on openstack/governance In-Reply-To: <20180726035938.GI30070@thor.bakeyournoodle.com> References: <20180726035938.GI30070@thor.bakeyournoodle.com> Message-ID: <924614F2-F94C-45A2-B849-CD9AC948A188@doughellmann.com> > On Jul 25, 2018, at 11:59 PM, Tony Breeds wrote: > > Hello TC, > I'd like to request the creation of a tag on the > openstack/governance repo for essentially freezing the repo and > therefore defining the per-project deliverables and extra-ATCs. > > Please create the tag aug-2018-elections[1] We already have a tag with that name. The YAML file says sept-2018-elections, so I assume that’s just a typo. > The following open changes: could potentially impact the election: > https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/governance+topic:project-update > as each of these changes adds a repo to a project team, however given > neither of them passes CI and has no Rollcall-Vote I think it's > appropriate to exclude them from consideration for the Stein PTL > election. I approved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592293/ which should not have any effect since it retires a repo. After that patch merged I tagged the new HEAD of master 0aa4de942ade7bda5667add0a57c62d578c709db with sept-2018-elections. Doug > > Yours Tony. > [1] To match http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/election/tree/configuration.yaml#n5 > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-TC mailing list > OpenStack-TC at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at doughellmann.com Thu Aug 23 13:03:40 2018 From: doug at doughellmann.com (Doug Hellmann) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:03:40 -0400 Subject: [openstack-tc] 2018 Denver PTG TC meetings Message-ID: <11468203-E958-4070-B5ED-F06C1AD717A3@doughellmann.com> Since the earlier thread was revived when Thierry flushed the moderation queue, and the only other place I think I mentioned it was in the weekly TC updates, I thought I should formally mention that the TC has set up 2 meetings during the week of the PTG. Sunday from 13:00-17:00 we’ll meet to discuss some internal, reflective topics. This meeting is open (as usual), but the room we were able to find is small so please check the agenda before deciding to drop in. Friday we will meet all day (or at least as long as our stamina allows by then) and the agenda includes a list of topics I thought would be more obviously interesting to a wider audience. The location, time, and agenda details are in the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tc-stein-ptg Doug From sean.mcginnis at gmx.com Thu Aug 23 14:30:24 2018 From: sean.mcginnis at gmx.com (Sean McGinnis) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:30:24 -0500 Subject: [openstack-tc] Proposed PTG post-lunch presentation schedule In-Reply-To: References: <20180823000043.GI26778@thor.bakeyournoodle.com> Message-ID: <20180823143024.GA23060@sm-workstation> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:04:42AM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Tony Breeds wrote: > > Any chance one of these sessions can be replaced with a TC candidates > > Q&A? It seems like a great opportunity to me. > > I'd say it's a bit late to add (it was not proposed on the etherpad), and it > would need a full 30-min slot (if not more) to yield any interesting > result... and I don't see which of the scheduled days we can really free up > for that. > > I think we should schedule that at another time (like at the end of one of > the days, before some happy hour). Let me see what our options are... > There was also a concern raised that doing something like this would give an unfair advantage if any potential candidates were not able to attend the PTG in person. From fungi at yuggoth.org Thu Aug 23 16:20:23 2018 From: fungi at yuggoth.org (Jeremy Stanley) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:20:23 +0000 Subject: [openstack-tc] Create Stein PTL election tag on openstack/governance In-Reply-To: <924614F2-F94C-45A2-B849-CD9AC948A188@doughellmann.com> References: <20180726035938.GI30070@thor.bakeyournoodle.com> <924614F2-F94C-45A2-B849-CD9AC948A188@doughellmann.com> Message-ID: <20180823162022.oalqrkcnllw7qdc3@yuggoth.org> On 2018-08-23 08:52:44 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Jul 25, 2018, at 11:59 PM, Tony Breeds wrote: > > > > Hello TC, > > I'd like to request the creation of a tag on the > > openstack/governance repo for essentially freezing the repo and > > therefore defining the per-project deliverables and extra-ATCs. > > > > Please create the tag aug-2018-elections[1] > > We already have a tag with that name. The YAML file says > sept-2018-elections, so I assume that’s just a typo. [...] Note the date on the original message. 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The YAML file says >> sept-2018-elections, so I assume that’s just a typo. > [...] > > Note the date on the original message. This spent a month in the > moderation queue. It was for the PTL elections not the TC election. D’oh. Well, the September tag exists, but I suppose we can change that if we need to. Doug From fungi at yuggoth.org Thu Aug 23 17:26:35 2018 From: fungi at yuggoth.org (Jeremy Stanley) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:26:35 +0000 Subject: [openstack-tc] Create Stein PTL election tag on openstack/governance In-Reply-To: <6229D698-754A-457E-92EA-79BAD28EBA8F@doughellmann.com> References: <20180726035938.GI30070@thor.bakeyournoodle.com> <924614F2-F94C-45A2-B849-CD9AC948A188@doughellmann.com> <20180823162022.oalqrkcnllw7qdc3@yuggoth.org> <6229D698-754A-457E-92EA-79BAD28EBA8F@doughellmann.com> Message-ID: <20180823172634.olylfoybpuhmzc6f@yuggoth.org> On 2018-08-23 12:34:20 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: [...] > Well, the September tag exists, but I suppose we can change that > if we need to. The election tags for PTL (aug-2018-elections) and TC (sept-2018-elections) were subsequently created by placing the request through other channels. -- Jeremy Stanley -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 963 bytes Desc: not available URL: From zbitter at redhat.com Thu Aug 23 20:44:25 2018 From: zbitter at redhat.com (Zane Bitter) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:44:25 -0400 Subject: [openstack-tc] Proposed PTG post-lunch presentation schedule In-Reply-To: <20180823143024.GA23060@sm-workstation> References: <20180823000043.GI26778@thor.bakeyournoodle.com> <20180823143024.GA23060@sm-workstation> Message-ID: On 23/08/18 10:30, Sean McGinnis wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:04:42AM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Tony Breeds wrote: >>> Any chance one of these sessions can be replaced with a TC candidates >>> Q&A? It seems like a great opportunity to me. >> >> I'd say it's a bit late to add (it was not proposed on the etherpad), and it >> would need a full 30-min slot (if not more) to yield any interesting >> result... and I don't see which of the scheduled days we can really free up >> for that. >> >> I think we should schedule that at another time (like at the end of one of >> the days, before some happy hour). Let me see what our options are... >> > > There was also a concern raised that doing something like this would give an > unfair advantage if any potential candidates were not able to attend the PTG in > person. I haven't said anything up to this point, but TBH I have even more concerns than that. Obviously on one level it would be really interesting to hear from the candidates, and if I were up for re-election I'd be interested in taking part. Just the fact that we'd have potentially a large fraction of the community engaged with the election process instead of only that subset who have time to seek it out on the -dev list is pretty exciting. OTOH this is *not* representative of the duties of being a TC member. We've never done an event like this before and we're never going to one again. So we're just going to subject this one group of candidates to a one-off hazing in the form of an in-person real-time Q&A session (in English) with a live audience? That doesn't seem conducive to getting a diversity of candidates. From mnaser at vexxhost.com Thu Aug 30 14:04:50 2018 From: mnaser at vexxhost.com (Mohammed Naser) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 07:04:50 -0700 Subject: [openstack-tc] Fwd: [OpenStack Foundation] OSF Open Infrastructure Projects In-Reply-To: <7D737DDE-CB49-43DE-9181-686FB0E83AF5@openstack.org> References: <7D737DDE-CB49-43DE-9181-686FB0E83AF5@openstack.org> Message-ID: Hi everyone: In case you missed this email, this is an update from the foundation regarding the current state of things. Thanks! Mohammed ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Jonathan Bryce Date: Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 6:48 AM Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] OSF Open Infrastructure Projects To: Hi everyone, I wanted to provide an update on how things have been progressing with the strategic planning for the OpenStack Foundation (OSF) that we kicked off in 2017 among the TC, UC and Board. Through the course of those discussions last year, we identified several opportunities for the Foundation and community. After the joint meeting in November of 2017, the Board of Directors authorized Foundation staff to start organizing some activities around strategic focus areas and to pilot new open infrastructure projects. At OpenStack Summit Sydney, we announced a new integration strategy, shifting our focus from being solely about the production of the OpenStack software, to more broadly helping organizations embrace open infrastructure: using and combining open source solutions to fill their needs in terms of IT infrastructure. This involves finding common use cases, collaborating across communities, building the required new technology and testing everything end to end[1]. In December 2017, we launched our Kata Containers, our first pilot project [2]. In the first half of 2018, we worked to get Kata off the ground and set up Zuul as a standalone project, and more recently started piloting 2 additional projects, Airship and StarlingX. Through these pilots, we have learned a lot and are now ready to put more structure around the future of our work with additional open infrastructure projects. In June, the Board formed a working group to develop a plan and the policies for this more formal structure. The Board will be reviewing the output of the working group at upcoming meetings, including in September, so now we are looking to get feedback on some of the initial thoughts ahead of the next working group and Board meetings. As laid out at the end of last year, there are two main concepts that will guide the efforts of the Foundation: strategic focus areas (SFAs) and projects. Strategic focus areas (SFA) "Open infrastructure" is an ever-evolving construct, as the computing needs of organizations evolve with the technology. SFAs are driven by usage scenarios and help direct the OSF action to specific segments of the open infrastructure market. The intent is to provide focus and content for use cases without trying to shove every possible type of cloud or deployment scenario into a single bucket. SFAs include all of the activities to achieve a specific strategic outcome (e.g. hosting projects, throwing events, building and managing community activities, education, marketing.) Defining SFAs is part of the regular strategic planning activities of the OSF Board of Directors. Focus areas may be proposed, discussed, approved or abandoned during strategic reviews. Those strategic reviews should happen as-needed, but at least annually. Current SFAs include datacenter cloud, container infrastructure, edge and CI/CD. Projects Projects address the need to build the required new technology to fill the goals of our strategic focus areas. The OSF enables those projects to be successfully set up as open collaborations, by providing IP management, a set of base collaboration rules (the 4 Opens) and upstream and downstream community support services. Open source projects that do not wish to be set up as open collaborations can still be included and integrated in open infrastructure solutions, however they will see little benefit in being hosted by the OSF. SFAs and projects do not form a hierarchy. A project does not "belong" to an SFA, however all projects supported by the OSF help achieve the goals of one or more of our defined SFAs, and all projects supported by the OSF follow the 4 Opens. Projects may be composed of several components or deliverables, as long as they are under a common defined scope and governance. Projects go through several recognition stages which define the level of engagement of OSF resources. Open development hosting OSF members already maintain a community-operated set of development and CI services enabling open collaboration at a massive scale. As we believe that open source software should be developed using open source tools, these services use only free and open source software. This project infrastructure embodies the 4 Opens and enables projects to follow them. The infra team is working to provide these services more broadly and in a non-OpenStack branded way to avoid the confusion that sometimes happens now when all hosted code resides in OpenStack namespaces. Any open source project may be hosted here and does not involve any recognition by the OSF. For projects that are candidates to become OSF-supported projects, we believe that they should start with code, so hosting them on community infrastructure is a recommended prepatory step. Stage 1: Pilot projects As part of meeting the goals of our strategic focus areas, the OSF staff will evaluate projects that fill gaps in open infrastructure adoption or enable specific use cases for OpenStack technologies. The OSF staff (as represented by its Executive Director) can select pilot projects where it identifies promising new technology pieces and encourage them to be set up as an open collaboration following the 4 Opens. The OSF staff then helps the pilot projects by establishing initial branding, setting up project websites, guiding them to set up proper governance, and understanding and adopting the 4 Opens. Such pilot projects may call themselves "a project supported by the OSF". Current pilot projects are Kata containers, Zuul, Airship, and StarlingX. Stage 2: Confirmed projects Within 18 months, a pilot project will be reviewed by the Board, in order to decide on long-term investment of OSF resources to support it. The Board will review the strategic alignment of the project with the Foundation's SFAs, but also their progress in setting up an effective open collaboration. To that effect, the project first needs to have set up a governance model and have produced at least one release since it was selected as a pilot. The Board will take community input in order to inform its decision, in particular, from the technical leadership of existing OSF projects, in terms of complementarity, and 4 Opens adoption. It should also seek the input from open infrastructure users in terms of SFA alignment. At that point the Board may decide to confirm the project as a long-term OSF investment, abandon the pilot or defer its decision. Confirmed projects may call themselves "a top-level project under the OSF". Currently, only the OpenStack project has been recognized by the OSF board (under the bylaws) as a long-term investement for the OSF and therefore belongs to that category. This represents the basic structure of our current thinking after a few iterations. The next Board meeting will be September 18 and we will review this at that meeting so we can move to fleshing out the detailed work that needs to be done to finalize this around the OpenStack Summit Berlin (potential bylaws changes for instance). Thanks, Jonathan 1. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2017-November/002532.html 2. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2017-December/002541.html _______________________________________________ Foundation mailing list Foundation at lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation -- Mohammed Naser — vexxhost ----------------------------------------------------- D. 514-316-8872 D. 800-910-1726 ext. 200 E. mnaser at vexxhost.com W. http://vexxhost.com