[openstack-tc] Stepping down

Doug Hellmann doug at doughellmann.com
Thu Aug 4 17:15:52 UTC 2016


> On Aug 4, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Sean Dague <sean at dague.net> wrote:
> 
> On 08/04/2016 10:07 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote:
>> On 04/08/16 09:56 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Monty Taylor <mordred at inaugust.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 08/04/2016 08:05 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Flavio Percoco <flavio at redhat.com
>>>>>> <mailto:flavio at redhat.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:flavio at redhat.com <mailto:flavio at redhat.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 04/08/16 09:46 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>>>>>>> Morgan Fainberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> NOTE: Cross-posted to this list as well as the -dev list.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Based upon my personal time demands among a number of other
>>>>>>>> reasons I
>>>>>>>> will be stepping down from the Technical Committee. This is
>>>>>>>> planned to
>>>>>>>> take effect with the next TC election so that my seat will be up
>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>> filled at that time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For those who elected me in, thank you.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hijacking this branch of the thread to discuss how to replace
>>>>>>> Morgan at
>>>>>>> next election, since our charter is a bit unclear on that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have two options:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1/ just renew 7 seats at the fall election (and 6 seats next spring)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd prefer #1, tbh. I'd rather have someone elected for the entire
>>>>>> period than
>>>>>> having a temporary member that might not be re-elected on the Northern
>>>>>> Spring. 6
>>>>>> months won't likely be enough for the 7th elected member to shine and
>>>>>> be amazing
>>>>>> and it sounds unfair to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> While I agree that it’s less than ideal, there are a lot of situations
>>>>> in which a partial term might come up, and we don’t want to rewrite the
>>>>> charter every time we get into a new situation. If Morgan needed to
>>>>> step
>>>>> down right now, or a month or two ago, we would likely have wanted an
>>>>> interim replacement earlier. We should fix up the charter to allow
>>>>> that.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that fixing up the charter to allow for a generalized mechanism
>>>> for member replacement is a good idea.
>>>> 
>>>>> I believe the board has an informal replacement policy of looking back
>>>>> at the last election and taking the next person down the list, don’t
>>>>> they? That seems reasonable for us, too. In this case, since Morgan is
>>>>> going to serve until the election, we should select the 7th from those
>>>>> results to serve a half term. I think this is Thierry’s option 2,
>>>>> isn’t it?
>>>> 
>>>> The board bylaws state that in the case a replacement individual
>>>> director is needed, the remaining individual directors will select one,
>>>> or may choose to not select a replacement. So far in the cases it has
>>>> come up, the individual directors have chosen to look at the prior
>>>> election because it seemed like a good way to go about it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for clarifying that. I’d like to use the same system. I’m not
>>> sure if we want to hard-code that, or use the same flexible language
>>> and just agree on the process informally. I don’t have a strong reason
>>> for avoiding hard-coding it, other than maintaining flexibility.
>> 
>> The process sounds flexible enough, I don't think hard-coding it would
>> take some
>> flexibility away.
> 
> I think my preference is to use the board process here. Have it formally
> be a TC level decision so we're not springing a special election on
> people during vacation season. And putting the election mechanism into
> play out of rhythm when people aren't expecting it.
> 
> And with that TC decision, my recommendation should just look at the
> results from the most recent election -
> http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_fef5cc22eb3dc27a <http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_fef5cc22eb3dc27a> and
> ask folks from the top down if it's something they are still interested in.

Right, though Morgan has said he’ll serve through the next election, so we’d use that one this time.

Doug

> 
> 	-Sean
> 
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