[openstack-tc] Concern about potential divisive nature of tc election call for questions

Anita Kuno anteaya at anteaya.info
Fri Sep 5 19:25:33 UTC 2014


On 09/05/2014 04:42 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Anita Kuno wrote:
>> Here is my concern, this potentially has the outcome of being divisive.
>> Now at the time the idea was suggested and I did agree with the spirit
>> of it (to better inform the electorate of the purpose of the tc as well
>> as introduce them to candidates they may not know) I felt that the
>> elements that bring us together were strong enough to weather a bit of
>> divisiveness for the sake of trying a new direction to get our
>> participation percentage up. Now I hesitate. Lately I have been more
>> aware of those elements that separate us or try to draw us apart moreso
>> than those qualities I have felt for so long in that they bring us
>> together. My concern is that this well intended exercise may have
>> negative consequences and I wanted to share my perspective with you
>> prior to taking action.
> 
> Here is my thoughts on it: the TC members going for election will post a
> platform anyway, explaining why people should elect them. So divisive
> questions might emerge anyway. Having a set of "open questions" like
> "what are the three most important challenge OpenStack has to face
> within the Kilo cycle" limits the potential for division, it just
> structures what the candidates include in their nomination email.
> 
> I think you and Tristan could come up with a short set of such open
> questions yourselves, but if you feel more comfortable asking for
> community input (making it clear that you're after open questions to
> build a template for candidates self-nomination emails), then you should
> pursue that.
> 
>> If I am to open a call for questions I would have to do it tomorrow,
>> Friday Sept. 5, in order to have the questions open for a week and then
>> give Tristan and myself a week to curate a list and have them posted
>> with 2 weeks prior to the tc nomination period. A draft timetable
>> (without specific timestamps, just days) follows:
>> Sept. 5 - 11 - call for questions
>> Sept. 12 - 18 - election officials curate submitted questions
>> Sept. 19 - 25 (Friday-Thursday) PTL Nominations Open - questions for TC
>> candidates posted Sept. 19
>> Sept. 26 - Oct. 2 (Friday - Thursday) PTL Election
>> Oct. 3 - 9 (Friday - Thursday) TC Nominations Open - TC candidate
>> questions due end of day Oct. 9
>> Oct. 10 - 16 (Friday - Thursday) TC Election - TC candidate question
>> responses posted Oct. 10
>> This doesn't leave a lot of time for discussion and direction and I am
>> sorry for that, I had hoped I would feel a clear direction on this
>> without having to bother everyone during feature freeze week and I just
>> don't.
> 
> Looking at the timing (and Joe's recent call for Kilo challenges), I
> think if you ask for open questions the whole schedule can be pushed
> back one week.
> 
> Sept. 5 - 11 - Joe gets feedback from his "challenges" question
> Sept. 12 - 18 - Ask for open questions for the TC template
> Sept. 19 - 25 - PTL Nominations Open - election officials curate
> submitted questions
> Sept. 26 - Oct. 2 (Friday - Thursday) PTL Election, questions for TC
> candidates posted
> Oct. 3 - 9 (Friday - Thursday) TC Nominations Open - TC candidate
> questions due end of day Oct. 9
> Oct. 10 - 16 (Friday - Thursday) TC Election - TC candidate question
> responses posted Oct. 10
> 
> That still leaves on week for question curation and two weeks for the TC
> candidates to compose their responses, which sounds plenty enough. Your
> questions can also benefit from Joe questions answers.
> 
> Regards,
> 
Thanks Thierry, I appreciate your thoughts.

I have posted the timeline for elections:
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/045201.html
folks were asking.

I mentioned that a question template would be posted, in the tc
candidate wikipage:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TC_Elections_October_2014#Candidates I
gave no details as to how the question template would be composed so
thoughts are still welcome here, if others care to share.

Thanks, if others have ideas I am still open to them.

Thanks,
Anita.



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