[openstack-tc] Meeting to develop a straw man set of designated sections

Mark Washenberger mark.washenberger at markwash.net
Sat Mar 22 17:53:50 UTC 2014


Two items:

When I listened to the Elephant.6 meeting I was very encouraged to hear
people say they wanted to publish a list of guidelines for selecting
designated sections. It sounded like these guidelines were already well
understood by one side of the table. Are these guidelines now published
somewhere? If not, why are we trying to create a strawman proposal before
they are published? I for one don't question the wisdom of using designated
sections--I just want to know more clearly or elaborately what we're trying
to achieve so that I can make an intelligent recommendation for my project.

The governance wiki page uses a specific definition for a plugin that is
not universally applicable or universally good in a technical sense. What
is the pedigree of this definition? Can it be dropped, or was it baked into
the Board motion? The use of designated sections seems to me to be a very
adroit way of addressing the need that was originally being met with the
plugin definition, so this definition doesn't really feel necessary to me.

Thanks!


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Anne Gentle <anne at openstack.org> wrote:

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> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 4:10 AM, Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>wrote:
>
>> Michael Still wrote:
>> > So, the defcore committee just had a meeting and I have to say it was
>> > a lot more productive than the previous one. I'm sure the recording
>> > will appear on YouTube at some point, but I am not sure when that will
>> > be.
>> >
>> > There is a desire to have a voice chat to interactively produce an
>> > etherpad that contains straw man designated sections for the various
>> > integrated projects. I personally think this is a good idea, because I
>> > think it will be more productive than yet another email thread.
>> >
>> > So... Who is available for either of these time slots next week?
>> >
>> >  * Wednesday 26 March at 8pm UTC
>> >  * Friday 28 March at 8pm UTC
>>
>> Shouldn't this call also be directed to the integrated projects PTLs,
>> rather than just the TC members ? IMHO the PTLs are the final authority
>> for producing this information, with the TC providing guidance and
>> encouraging some homogeneity.
>>
>> Here is a list of people that need to be looped in (Icehouse release):
>> David Lyle (Horizon)
>> Dolph Mathews (Keystone)
>> John Dickinson (Swift)
>> Julien Danjou (Ceilometer)
>> Mark Washenberger (Glance)
>> Michael Basnight (Trove)
>> Steve Baker (Heat)
>>
>> The other integrated projects PTLs (Nova, Cinder, Oslo, Neutron) also
>> seat on the TC.
>>
>>
> Thanks for the list, Thierry. Adding them to this thread. (There's no
> all-PTL mailing list I should use, right?)
>
> The request: we're looking for designated sections of your program's code
> to help define criteria for "core definition" where core definition is part
> of our governance docs at
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/CoreDefinition.
>
> Who wants it: The board members working on core definition
>
> What does it get them: Forward movement on defining the OpenStack mark use
> policies
> How will they know if they have it: The etherpad at
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-designated-sections will have
> your project's name in it with simple definitions of what parts of your
> code base should be run. (Do not overthink this: simple outlines will
> suffice.)
>
> When do they need it by: 3/31 (I know this is a busy time for everyone
> with the release. Please raise your hand if you need help, we will find it
> for you.)
>
> Who might be exempt: We do not need all projects to designate sections,
> only the ones that are likely to have capabilities flagged by required
> tests. If you think yours lands in this exempt category, just ask.
>
> What happens if this doesn't get done: We continue to struggle with the
> definition of an OpenStack cloud. Probably someone else will define for you
> (which is also likely just fine).
>
> Let me know if this request outline is useful and feel free to ask any
> questions as you go.
>
> Anne
>
>
>>  --
>> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
>>
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