[openstack-tc] [Fwd: [OpenStack-DefCore] Engaging with the TC]

Mark McLoughlin markmc at redhat.com
Wed Jan 29 09:42:34 UTC 2014


Josh makes a case that a meeting between the board and TC is needed.

If it's to be an in-person meeting, then the Atlanta our next

However, to make it work, I think we need to:

  1) Make a decision very quickly - I expect TC members will be making 
     travel plans already and many may be intending to arrive on the 
     evening of May 11.

  2) Decide on a concrete agenda and schedule - what day and time would
     we like this joint session, how long should it run and what
     topic(s) do we wish to discuss?

  3) Make this a meeting between peers - e.g. if this is part of the 
     board meeting, then we need proper seating arrangements so that TC
     members aren't squashing in or sitting down the back in the cheap

  4) Sort out some procedural questions in advance - e.g. is this a 
     board meeting with TC members as invited guests or a joint session?
     What constitutes TC and board quorum? Who will chair? Will any
     votes be taken? - I think these should be straightforward to figure
     out, but I wouldn't want to waste time on the day debating them.


-------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com>
> Reply-to: Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com>
> To: defcore-committee at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: [OpenStack-DefCore] Engaging with the TC
> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 21:07:48 +0000
> Hi
> I couldn't make the last DefCore meeting because I was still on vacation
> but, in any case, if I wasn't on vacation I would have been at the TC
> meeting scheduled at the same time.
> As a more constructive suggestion than the board firing the TC[1], how
> about the defcore committee join the TC at its next IRC meeting to
> invite feedback on the draft summary? i.e. just like we're apparently
> doing with George Reese and Andrew Clay Shafer?
> The only attempt I've noticed the board make to have a joint Board/TC
> meeting is to invite at short notice the TC to the Board meeting in
> Portland. AFAIR when Thierry and Michael did turn up, the only thing we
> discussed is how to organize a joint meeting[2]. When some TC members
> joined the board meeting in Hong Kong, they were relegated to the cheap
> seats at the back.
> OTOH it's entirely trivial to have members of the board join the TC
> meeting. Unlike board meetings, the TC meeting is held at a predictable
> time every week, anyone can propose items for the agenda and we have an
> open floor at the end. It's worth a try, at least.
> Mark.
> [1] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH4Jw5NdwSs&t=3410
> [2] - http://blogs.gnome.org/markmc/2013/05/25/april-14th-openstack-foundation-board-meeting/
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