[openstack-tc] Spider "What is Core" Discussion Continued - Monday 7/15 1-3pm Central

Mark McLoughlin markmc at redhat.com
Thu Jul 11 21:16:57 UTC 2013


On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 16:13 -0500, Dolph Mathews wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> wrote:
>         On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 10:01 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote:
>         > On 07/10/2013 02:53 PM, Rob_Hirschfeld at Dell.com wrote:
>         > > Board & TC Members,
>         > >
>         > >
>         > >
>         > > Alan and I have planned another 2 hour discussion session around the
>         > > spider chart / what is core action plan.  The goal for this meeting is
>         > > to refine the 6 positions that we’ve articulated and identify additional
>         > > ones needed (my gut says, 4+ more).
>         > >
>         > >
>         > >
>         > > If you have not been part of this meeting, we’ll explain what’s going on
>         > > in the 1^st 15 minutes (and there’s information in the etherpad too).
>         > > I’m working on a post about it too, but you’ll have to wait for that.
>         >
>         > > Background info: https://etherpad.openstack.org/Board-2013-SpiderDiscussion
>         >
>         > This is the first time I've seen this.
>         
>         
>         Given that I'm on the board, it's not the first time I've seen it.
>         
>         With my "board hat" on, I buy into the high level goal here - encourage
>         a marketplace of compatible OpenStack clouds by making the use of the
>         trademark in association with a public cloud contingent on it passing
>         some conformance tests.
>         
>         I've never really evolved my thinking much beyond that, though. For
>         example, you could imagine taking this too far and eliminating any
>         opportunity for OpenStack service providers to compete.
> 
> 
> I don't perceive it as "competition" when it boils down to MyOpenStack
> vs YourOpenStack because comparing API feature sets is like comparing
> apples and oranges. End users don't win (see monty's example of not
> being able to use CDN), and so OpenStack suffers. Service providers
> can always compete on performance, reliability, cost, etc.

Yeah, I was a bit obtuse - I've heard people talking about conformance
testing involving performance tests. Not sure if anyone still thinks
that's on the table, but that's the type of thing I mean.

Cheers,
Mark.





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