[Openstack-sigs] [self-healing][all] Expose SIG to user/ops

Rico Lin rico.lin.guanyu at gmail.com
Tue Sep 18 01:46:22 UTC 2018


Here is the summarize from some follow-up discussion in PTG for SIGs/WGs
expose,
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134689.html


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:40 AM Eric K <ekcs.openstack at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry quite last minute considering the UC sessions tmr. I just added a
> candidate question to the etherpad which may provide more actionable
> responses for us:
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-user-survey-questions
>
> From: Rico Lin <rico.lin.guanyu at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: <openstack-sigs at lists.openstack.org>
> Date: Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 9:57 AM
> To: <openstack-sigs at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-sigs] [self-healing][all] Expose SIG to user/ops
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:56 AM Adam Spiers <aspiers at suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > This sounds like a great idea to me!  I've submitted a story for this:
> >
> >     https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2003423
> >
> > and set up an etherpad for brainstorming:
> >
> >     https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-user-survey-questions
> >
> I think those two questions are quite great. Just put some extra idea in
> that.
> Also, I have proposed you're etherpad under UC discussions in PTG
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc-stein-ptg
> Unfortunately, that's when UC discuss about next survey, so appears we
> have to settle down with certain questions before our meeting in PTG.
> For me, the current version looks nice. If anyone like to suggest more,
> feel free to do so
> >
> >
> > This sounds reasonable.  We already link to the StoryBoard from the
> > SIG portal wiki page:
> >
> >
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Self-healing_SIG#Community_Infrastructure_.2F_Resources
> >
> > but yes we could also proactively announce this in places which would
> > reach more users and operators, inviting them to submit stories.  Can
> > you suggest how best to do this?  We could email the openstack and
> > openstack-operators lists, although TBH I have done this several times
> > in the past and not gotten much engagement - probably because both
> > lists are very high traffic.
> >
> I guess we should keep trying to propose in ML. There're two more places I
> think we can try on. As we might be able to have our own page in User
> survey, I think we're allow to put more message to point a place(our git
> repo, or an etherpad) for Users who like to add more information during
> that survey. The second place is SuperUser MagZ. If we can come's up with
> an article (which we can plan in PTG if we like to have one) to introduce
> our plan, works, and needs. I think Super User will willing to help us post
> that article out. If we got some article, we can Use official OpenStack
> social media (FB, Twitter, etc) to broadcast that information.
> >
> >
> > I love this idea, and yes the self-healing-sig git repository could
> > absolutely be the home for this gating code.  I suspect that a big
> > part of the challenge will be to simulate failures in order to test
> > the self-healing functionality.  In fact we already have a story
> > regarding automated testing:
> >
> >     https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002129
> >
> > although that is much more ambitious in scope, i.e. building a
> > complete framework which could support testing of many different
> > self-healing scenarios.  I have some documentation on the Eris project
> > which I am planning to upload to the repository on this.
> >
> > However your proposal sounds less ambitious and more likely to be
> > achievable in the short-term, so I'd love to learn more about how you
> > think this might work (unfortunately I don't know much about Tempest
> > internals yet).
>
> Since the git just updated with more official project format, we can add
> Zuul.yaml to define our periodic job I think we already got a lot of places
> to add tempest test(I think we might be able to use heat-tempest-plugin
> too), so we shouldn't need to build our own tempest repo
> >
> > Thanks a lot for your ideas!  They are great - please keep them coming
> ;-)
> >
> > Adam
>
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