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Yes I've also noticed the slack usage in Japan dev community :) I guess my
case is mostly my observation from China.

In any case , I think the point is every community in a certain region
should use the best tool they see fit, without a mandate on certain method.
For the FC SIG itself, a irc channel should work with all the liaisons.

@Akihiro BTW there are a lot of IRC bouncers you could use for the offline
discussion capture :)

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 5:31 PM, Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't think Howard's point necessarily applies to the case of Japan.
>
> As Japanese community, we don't encourage to use non-IRC tools for
> OpenStack developers.
> Our local version of the upstream institute (training) uses a specific
> IRC channel for example.
> Our mailing lists of Japan users group (using google groups from
> historical reason :p) is open to any topics including development,
> operators, setup and so on.
>
> On the other hand, we use other tools: a Slack room for Japan
> operators community and a gitter room for Japanese translators.
> There are several reasons. One big reason is Slack is a popular
> communication tool.
> Another reason (which I think is more important) is such tools support
> offline notification. These tools allows us to track discussions while
> they are offline.
> A standard IRC does not provide such feature. Users need to set up
> other tools like IRC bouncer or use other IRC-based service (like
> IRCcloud).
> OpenStack infra provides logs of our IRC channels, but it is not handy
> to use multiple medias for a single discussion.
> When I prepared a gitter room for Japanese translators, I compared
> several tools from various points (unlimited logs, unlimited number of
> members, openness and so on) and decided to use Gitter in this case.
> Although it might not be ideal, it is useful and convenient for
> non-developers.
>
> In my understanding, the first contact SIG is mainly for developers,
> so my above point does not necessarily apply, but I think it is one of
> important points to support offline communication.
>
> Thanks,
> Akihiro
>
>
> 2018-03-16 13:07 GMT+09:00 Zhipeng Huang <zhipengh512 at gmail.com>:
> > Hi Jeremy,
> >
> > I think non-eng mailing-list will not be utilized as we intent it to, the
> > same thing happens with non-eng irc channel as well. I would suggest just
> > pick a tool that people in the specific area enjoys using, for example
> > wechat in China, Line/Slack in Japan, etc.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2018-03-15 08:37:35 +0800 (+0800), Zhipeng Huang wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> > For communciation tools, per irc  I agree converge to #openstack-dev
> is
> >> > better than maintaining some independent channels. But also from my
> >> > experience video conf in native lang is more effective.
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Any ideas on whether we should suggest that people who are finding
> >> English challenging try to reach out on one of our language-specific
> >> mailing lists for a language in which they are more fluent (and then
> >> perhaps arrange there for a video conference with another
> >> contributor who can help them if that's more convenient)?
> >> --
> >> Jeremy Stanley
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Huawei Technologies Co,. Ltd
Email: huangzhipeng at huawei.com
Office: Huawei Industrial Base, Longgang, Shenzhen

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