[Openstack-personas] Persona meeting in Austin

Ju Lim julim at redhat.com
Mon Aug 31 20:59:18 UTC 2015


Hi Piet:

Thanks for sharing.  I've linked to it from
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PersonaReferenceMaterial#Persona_Development_Reference_Material,
so it's also available from the OpenStack Personas wiki page too.

Thanks again,
Ju

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Kruithof, Piet <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
> Attached is a scrubbed set of cloud roles that were developed at HP.  The
> roles were based heavily on published work as well as internal interviews.
>
> I’m also planning to post to invision for review.
>
> Also, let me know if you want to schedule a meeting to discuss.
>
> Piet
>
>
> Piet Kruithof
> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>
>
> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat and
> wrong.”
>
> H L Menken
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/27/15, 2:03 PM, "Dave Neary" <dneary at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi Piet,
> >
> >Sure! Links here:
> >
> >Videos & opensource.com article:
> >http://opensource.com/business/14/5/personas-define-openstack-users
> >
> >Slides:
> >
> >"Personas: 6 months on" (Hong Kong presentation):
> >http://www.slideshare.net/nearyd/personas-28030724
> >"Using personas to target users (Portland? presentation): PDF slides
> >attached
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Dave
> >
> >On 08/27/2015 03:19 PM, Kruithof, Piet wrote:
> >> Good question.   Does anyone know if it’s even possible to migrate
> >>users?
> >>
> >> Dave,
> >>
> >> Do you mind distributing your deck on personas?  I seem to recall you
> >> presenting them at an OpenStack summit a few years back.
> >>
> >> Piet
> >>
> >>
> >> Piet Kruithof
> >> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>
> >>
> >> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat and
> >> wrong.”
> >>
> >> H L Menken
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/27/15, 1:02 PM, "Dave Neary" <dneary at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I for one would like to continue following the discussion - if the list
> >>> name changes, would you re-subscribe persona list members
> >>>automatically?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Dave.
> >>>
> >>> On 08/27/2015 01:23 PM, Ju Lim wrote:
> >>>> +1 to having an OpenStack UX mailing list, and then having something
> >>>> [$subject] in the email reference for the topic that is being
> >>>>discussed,
> >>>> much like the openstack-dev mailing list.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Ju
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>      Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>      If personas will be maintained by the UX team moving forward
> >>>>then I
> >>>>      think it makes sense to collapse the ML.
> >>>>
> >>>>      Thanks,
> >>>>      Shamail
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>       > On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Kruithof, Piet
> >>>>      <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
> >>>>      wrote:
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       > One other question and then I’ll stop…
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       > Should we remove the OpenStack personas email list and create
> >>>>a
> >>>>      general UX
> >>>>       > email list?
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       > Piet
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       > Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       > Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>>>       > PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       > "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is
> >>>>simple,
> >>>>      neat and
> >>>>       > wrong.”
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       > H L Menken
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       >> On 8/27/15, 9:27 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
> >>>>      <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
> >>>>      wrote:
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >> Apologies - the question was intended for Aminah.
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >> MustŠgetŠcoffee...
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >> Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>>>       >> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is
> >>>>simple,
> >>>>      neat and
> >>>>       >> wrong.²
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >> H L Menken
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >>
> >>>>       >>> On 8/27/15, 9:23 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
> >>>>      <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
> >>>>      wrote:
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> BTW.  Hayat (Intel Open Source UX) is interested in
> >>>>conducting
> >>>>      a series
> >>>>       >>> of interviews to understand the installation experience for
> >>>>      OpenStack.
> >>>>       >>> Where you or someone in your organization interested in
> >>>>      participating?  I
> >>>>       >>> imagine the interview would last no more than an hour.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Cheers,
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>>>       >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is
> >>>>simple,
> >>>>      neat and
> >>>>       >>> wrong.²
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> H L Menken
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> From: "Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:
> Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.c
> >>>>om
> >>>>      <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>"
> >>>>       >>> <Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:
> Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.c
> >>>>om
> >>>>      <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>>
> >>>>       >>> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 9:19 AM
> >>>>       >>> To: "julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>"
> >>>>       >>> <julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>, Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:
> pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>
> >>>>       >>> Cc: "itzshamail at gmail.com
> >>>>      <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
> >>>>      <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>"
> >>>>       >>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
> >>>>      <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
> >>>>      <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>,
> >>>>       >>> "lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>"
> >>>>       >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>,
> >>>>       >>> "lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>"
> >>>>       >>> <lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>,
> >>>>       >>> "gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>"
> >>>>       >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>,
> >>>>       >>> "hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>      <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>"
> >>>>       >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>      <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>,
> >>>>       >>> "jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>"
> >>>>       >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>,
> >>>>       >>> "sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>"
> >>>>       >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>>,
> >>>>       >>> "openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:
> openstack-person
> >>>>as
> >>>> @lists.o
> >>>>      <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
> >>>>       >>> p
> >>>>       >>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>"
> >>>>       >>> <openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:
> openstack-person
> >>>>as
> >>>> @lists.o
> >>>>      <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
> >>>>       >>> p
> >>>>       >>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>>
> >>>>       >>> Subject: RE: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Thanks, yes, please include me.  MUCH appreciated!
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Aminah Nailor
> >>>>       >>> Phone 404.973.7729 <tel:404.973.7729>
> >>>>       >>> Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:
> Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.c
> >>>>om
> >>>>      <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> From: Ju Lim [mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>]
> >>>>       >>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:14 AM
> >>>>       >>> To: Kruithof, Piet
> >>>>       >>> Cc: Shamail Tahir; Liz Blanchard; Stan Haozhe Li; Greg
> >>>>      Hintermeister;
> >>>>       >>> Benchenaa, Hayat; Jeffrey A Calcaterra; Serena Doyle;
> >>>>       >>> openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:
> openstack-person
> >>>>as
> >>>> @lists.op
> >>>>      <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.op>
> >>>>       >>> e
> >>>>       >>> nstack.org <http://nstack.org>>; Nailor, Aminah
> >>>>       >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Including Aminah Nailor as she has expressed interest in
> >>>>      helping in this
> >>>>       >>> effort as well as the OpenStack Personas mailing list so
> >>>>that
> >>>>      others are
> >>>>       >>> aware of this effort and can chime in if they wish to
> >>>> contribute.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Thanks,
> >>>>       >>> Ju
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Kruithof, Piet
> >>>>       >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:
> pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>> wrote:
> >>>>       >>> Hiya,
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> My manager still needs to review (scrub) the HP cloud roles
> >>>>      document.
> >>>>       >>> However, I did want to point yo at some additional
> >>>>resources:
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Personas developed by the UX working group (in progress,
> >>>> draft):
> >>>>       >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Personas
> >>>>       >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PersonaPotentialRoles
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> One of the approaches was to organize the personas as
> >>>>      ecosystems that
> >>>>       >>> shape user roles and goals.  This was driven by one of the
> >>>>      findings that
> >>>>       >>> attitudes about OpenStack vary significantly based on the
> >>>>type
> >>>> of
> >>>>       >>> business.
> >>>>       >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Personas
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Data collected from the persona interviews about a year ago:
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CslXeXMUDNv1DsBEVSZWJbGmPnejJW-
> >>>>Pz
> >>>>       >>> k
> >>>>       >>> IWege5-ZA/edit?usp=sharing
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> A couple of other things.  We could potentially decide that
> >>>>      there is
> >>>>       >>> enough data and its just a matter of refining and creating a
> >>>>      presentation
> >>>>       >>> around the personas.  If that¹s the case, we could consider
> >>>>      pivoting and
> >>>>       >>> using the time in Austin as a strategy session for
> >>>>community UX
> >>>>      work.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Cheers,
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>>>       >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is
> >>>>simple,
> >>>>      neat and
> >>>>       >>> wrong.²
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> H L Menken
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> From: Shamail Tahir
> >>>>       >>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
> >>>>      <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
> >>>>      <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>><mailto:itzshamail at gmai
> >>>>      <mailto:itzshamail at gmai>
> >>>>       >>> l
> >>>>       >>> .com<mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 9:30 PM
> >>>>       >>> To: Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:
> pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>>>       >>> i
> >>>>       >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Cc: Liz Blanchard
> >>>>       >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
> >>>>       >>> o
> >>>>       >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
> >>>>      Ju Lim
> >>>>       >>> <julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
> >>>>       >>> :
> >>>>       >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>, Stan Haozhe
> >>>>Li
> >>>>       >>> <lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
> >>>>       >>> s
> >>>>       >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
> >>>>       >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
> >>>>       >>> :
> >>>>       >>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa,
> >>>> Hayat"
> >>>>       >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>      <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
> >>>>       >>> .
> >>>>       >>> benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>      <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>      <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
> >>>>       >>> Calcaterra
> >>>>       >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
> >>>>      <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
> >>>>       >>> o
> >>>>       >>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> >>>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
> >>>>      Serena Doyle
> >>>>       >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
> >>>>       >>> l
> >>>>       >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Thanks for letting me participate in this working session.
> >>>>      Piet and I
> >>>>       >>> met at the operators summit (during the product WG session)
> >>>>and
> >>>>      connected
> >>>>       >>> on this topic since the Product WG is writing user stories
> >>>>to
> >>>>      discuss
> >>>>       >>> features/functionality.  As a part of the user story, we
> >>>>have
> >>>>      to specify
> >>>>       >>> actors/personas and, currently, we have not defined any
> >>>>      standardized
> >>>>       >>> personas.  I look forward to working with this team and
> >>>>being
> >>>>      able to
> >>>>       >>> share the work done here with the Product WG team.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> I will most likely have to attend remotely but I will try my
> >>>>      best to be
> >>>>       >>> there in person if possible.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Here is a sample user story currently in our repository:
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/blob/master/user-st
> >>>>or
> >>>>       >>> i
> >>>>       >>> es/draft/rollingupgrades.rst
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> --
> >>>>       >>> Thanks,
> >>>>       >>> Shamail Tahir
> >>>>       >>> t: @ShamailXD
> >>>>       >>> tz: Eastern Time
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Kruithof, Piet
> >>>>       >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:
> pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>>>       >>> i
> >>>>       >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
> >>>>      wrote:
> >>>>       >>> As an aside,  I went ahead and scrubbed HP¹s cloud roles
> >>>>      document but
> >>>>       >>> still need to have my manager review it.  Hopefully by end
> >>>>of
> >>>> week.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>>>       >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is
> >>>>simple,
> >>>>      neat and
> >>>>       >>> wrong.²
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> H L Menken
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> From: Liz Blanchard
> >>>>       >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
> >>>>       >>> o
> >>>>       >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>>
> >>>>       >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:06 AM
> >>>>       >>> To: Ju Lim
> >>>>       >>> <julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
> >>>>       >>> :
> >>>>       >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li
> >>>>       >>> <lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
> >>>>       >>> s
> >>>>       >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
> >>>>       >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
> >>>>       >>> :
> >>>>       >>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa,
> >>>> Hayat"
> >>>>       >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>      <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
> >>>>       >>> .
> >>>>       >>> benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>      <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>      <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
> >>>>       >>> Calcaterra
> >>>>       >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
> >>>>      <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
> >>>>       >>> o
> >>>>       >>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> >>>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
> >>>>      Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:
> pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>>>       >>> i
> >>>>       >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>,
> >>>>      Serena
> >>>>       >>> Doyle
> >>>>       >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
> >>>>       >>> l
> >>>>       >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Hi all,
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Thanks for including me in the conversation. I won't be
> >>>>able to
> >>>>      travel
> >>>>       >>> this year so I won't be able to attend this in person
> >>>>      unfortunately. I
> >>>>       >>> know that F2F is much preferred for these types of
> >>>>activities,
> >>>>      so I look
> >>>>       >>> forward to hearing how it goes and hope to be able to learn
> >>>>      from the work
> >>>>       >>> you all do and apply it while designing!
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Best,
> >>>>       >>> Liz
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Ju Lim
> >>>>       >>> <julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
> >>>>       >>> :
> >>>>       >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>> wrote:
> >>>>       >>> Hi Stan et al:
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> I agree F2F is preferable; however, with the upcoming
> >>>>OpenStack
> >>>>      Summit in
> >>>>       >>> Tokyo, I'm trying to reduce traveling that month (as it
> >>>>puts a
> >>>>      lot of
> >>>>       >>> burden on my family).
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> That being said, I'd be happy to participate and collaborate
> >>>>      remotely.
> >>>>       >>> Additionally, we might be able to get more participation if
> >>>>we
> >>>>      provide
> >>>>       >>> remote collaboration capabilities -- if we're interested in
> >>>>      additional
> >>>>       >>> folks joining in this effort.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Thanks,
> >>>>       >>> Ju
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Stan Haozhe Li
> >>>>       >>> <lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
> >>>>       >>> s
> >>>>       >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>> wrote:
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Hi Ju,
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Face to face collaboration would be ideal as we have
> >>>>      collaborative spaces
> >>>>       >>> designed for design collaborations.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> But we can also use tools to facilitate remote
> >>>>collaboration,
> >>>> like
> >>>>       >>> Mura.ly for post-it sessions, Ziggy Cameras to project
> >>>>sketches
> >>>>      over
> >>>>       >>> video streams, etc.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> -Stan
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> [Inactive hide details for Ju Lim ---08/26/2015 10:34:59
> >>>>      AM---Hi Piet:
> >>>>       >>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be w]Ju
> >>>> Lim
> >>>>       >>> ---08/26/2015 10:34:59 AM---Hi Piet: I'm indifferent about
> >>>>the
> >>>>      dates
> >>>>       >>> other than it should be way before the
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> From: Ju Lim
> >>>>       >>> <julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
> >>>>       >>> :
> >>>>       >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
> >>>>       >>> To: "Kruithof, Piet"
> >>>>       >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:
> pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>>>       >>> i
> >>>>       >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
> >>>>       >>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS, Jeffrey A
> >>>>       >>> Calcaterra/Raleigh/IBM at IBMUS, Liz Blanchard
> >>>>       >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
> >>>>      <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
> >>>>       >>> o
> >>>>       >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> >>>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
> >>>>      Serena Doyle
> >>>>       >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
> >>>>       >>> l
> >>>>       >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>,
> >>>>      "Benchenaa, Hayat"
> >>>>       >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>      <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
> >>>>       >>> .
> >>>>       >>> benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>      <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> >>>>      <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Date: 08/26/2015 10:34 AM
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>>       >>> ________________________________
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Hi Piet:
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be way
> >>>>      before the
> >>>>       >>> Tokyo Summit.  I'm not sure about the travel but can
> >>>>definitely
> >>>>      do it
> >>>>       >>> remotely via video conferencing like last time.  Any
> >>>>thoughts
> >>>> about
> >>>>       >>> remote participation?
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Thoughts?
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Thanks,
> >>>>       >>> Ju
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Kruithof, Piet
> >>>>       >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:
> pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>>>       >>> i
> >>>>       >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
> >>>>      wrote:
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Ccing a few folks (who may be attending)
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Ju, Liz, Jeff, Serena and Hyat,
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> See below.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> The meeting will be in Austin.  Do you have a preference?  I
> >>>>      would like
> >>>>       >>> to do Option #3.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>>>       >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is
> >>>>simple,
> >>>>      neat and
> >>>>       >>> wrong.²
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> H L Menken
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
> >>>>       >>> <lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
> >>>>       >>> s
> >>>>       >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
> >>>>       >>> .
> >>>>       >>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 8:54 AM
> >>>>       >>> To: Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:
> pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>>>       >>> i
> >>>>       >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
> >>>>      <mailto:pie>
> >>>>       >>> t
> >>>>       >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter
> >>>><mailto:pieter>
> >>>>       >>> .
> >>>>       >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
> >>>>       >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
> >>>>       >>> :
> >>>>       >>> gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
> >>>>       >>> o
> >>>>       >>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> It's actually 5th and 6th of October instead of 2nd and 3rd.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> A couple options are:
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> 1. Keep the workshop to be 2 days, and stay late during
> >>>>these
> >>>>      two days.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> 2. We can schedule the workshop from 4th to 6th, so that we
> >>>>      have three
> >>>>       >>> days, but this would require people to come on Sunday.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> 3. We can use the collaborative space on 5th and 6th, and
> >>>>use a
> >>>>      different
> >>>>       >>> space on 7th, but this would require we move all artifacts
> >>>>      generated in
> >>>>       >>> the workshop late on 6th.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> -Stan
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015
> >>>> 08:17:08
> >>>>       >>> PM---What do you think?  I¹m kind of torn because we may
> >>>>      nee]"Kruithof,
> >>>>       >>> Piet" ---08/25/2015 08:17:08 PM---What do you think?  I¹m
> >>>>kind
> >>>>      of torn
> >>>>       >>> because we may need more than two days to work on the
> >>>>personas.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
> >>>>       >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:
> pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>>>       >>> i
> >>>>       >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
> >>>>      <mailto:pie>
> >>>>       >>> t
> >>>>       >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter
> >>>><mailto:pieter>
> >>>>       >>> .
> >>>>       >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
> >>>>       >>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS
> >>>>       >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> >>>>       >>> Date: 08/25/2015 08:17 PM
> >>>>       >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> ________________________________
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> What do you think?  I¹m kind of torn because we may need
> >>>>more
> >>>>      than two
> >>>>       >>> days to work on the personas.  However, the 12-14th is a bit
> >>>>      close to the
> >>>>       >>> summit and won¹t leave us a lot of time to prepare the
> >>>> personas.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>>>       >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is
> >>>>simple,
> >>>>      neat and
> >>>>       >>> wrong.²
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> H L Menken
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
> >>>>       >>> <lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
> >>>>       >>> s
> >>>>       >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
> >>>>       >>> .
> >>>>       >>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>
> >>>>       >>> <
> >>>>       >>> mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 2:07 PM
> >>>>       >>> To: Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:
> pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>>>       >>> i
> >>>>       >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
> >>>>      <mailto:pie>
> >>>>       >>> t
> >>>>       >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter
> >>>><mailto:pieter>
> >>>>       >>> .
> >>>>       >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter
> >>>> <mailto:pieter>.
> >>>>       >>> c
> >>>>       >>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.k>
> >>>>       >>> r
> >>>>       >>> uithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
> >>>>       >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
> >>>>       >>> :
> >>>>       >>> gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
> >>>>       >>> o
> >>>>       >>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mail
> >>>>       >>> t
> >>>>       >>> o:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:o%3Agregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> >>>>      <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
> >>>>       >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Hi Piet,
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Thanks for reaching out, I was just about to email you on
> >>>>this.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> I've been trying to secure rooms for the persona workshop,
> >>>>and
> >>>>      initially
> >>>>       >>> I try to book the collaborative spaces with movable
> >>>>whiteboards
> >>>>      that we
> >>>>       >>> have in the design studio. However, due to limited
> >>>>availability
> >>>>      and vast
> >>>>       >>> demand, the earliest days these spaces would be available
> >>>>are:
> >>>>      2nd and
> >>>>       >>> 3rd October and 12 to 14 October.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Would these two times work?
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> I'm still looking for rooms at other buildings that might be
> >>>>      available
> >>>>       >>> earlier, but I think these design spaces are ideal for a
> >>>> persona
> >>>>       >>> workshop.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> -Stan
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015
> >>>> 02:54:26
> >>>>       >>> PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.]"Kruithof, Piet"
> >>>>      ---08/25/2015
> >>>>       >>> 02:54:26 PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
> >>>>       >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:
> pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>>>       >>> i
> >>>>       >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
> >>>>      <mailto:pie>
> >>>>       >>> t
> >>>>       >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>
> >>>><mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter
> >>>><mailto:pieter>
> >>>>       >>> .
> >>>>       >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter
> >>>> <mailto:pieter>.
> >>>>       >>> c
> >>>>       >>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.k>
> >>>>       >>> r
> >>>>       >>> uithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> >>>>      <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
> >>>>       >>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
> >>>>       >>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> >>>>       >>> Date: 08/25/2015 02:54 PM
> >>>>       >>> Subject: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> ________________________________
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Hi Stan | Hi Greg,
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Hope all is well.
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> I was wondering whether you have thought about the proposed
> >>>> persona
> >>>>       >>> workshop.  Where you still interested in hosting in Austin?
> >>>> If
> >>>>      so, what
> >>>>       >>> dates did you have in mind?
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>>>       >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>>>       >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is
> >>>>simple,
> >>>>      neat and
> >>>>       >>> wrong.²
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> H L Menken
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> [attachment "graycol.gif" deleted by Stan Haozhe
> >>>>Li/Austin/IBM]
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> --
> >>>>       >>> Ju Lim
> >>>>       >>> Red Hat
> >>>>       >>> Office:
> >>>>       >>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
> >>>>      <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
> >>>>      <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422>>>
> >>>>       >>> Mobile:
> >>>>       >>> 781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323
> >>>>      <tel:781-507-1323>><tel:781-507-1323
> >>>>      <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323>>>
> >>>>       >>> Email:
> >>>>       >>> julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
> >>>>       >>> j
> >>>>       >>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
> >>>>       >>> IRC: julim
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> --
> >>>>       >>> Ju Lim
> >>>>       >>> Red Hat
> >>>>       >>> Office:
> >>>>       >>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
> >>>>      <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
> >>>>      <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422>>
> >>>>       >>> Mobile:
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>> 781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323>>
> >>>>       >>> Email:
> >>>>       >>> julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
> >>>>       >>> j
> >>>>       >>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
> >>>>       >>> IRC: julim
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> --
> >>>>       >>> Ju Lim
> >>>>       >>> Red Hat
> >>>>       >>> Office: 978-399-0422
> >>>>       >>> Mobile: 781-507-1323
> >>>>       >>> Email: julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> >>>>      <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>
> >>>>       >>> IRC: julim
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>       >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>       >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-personas
> >>>>       >
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> >>>>       >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-personas
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Ju Lim
> >>>> Red Hat
> >>>> Office: 978-399-0422
> >>>> Mobile: 781-507-1323
> >>>> Email: julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>
> >>>> IRC: julim
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Dave Neary - NFV/SDN Community Strategy
> >>> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
> >>> Ph: +1-978-399-2182 / Cell: +1-978-799-3338
> >>>
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> >
> >--
> >Dave Neary - NFV/SDN Community Strategy
> >Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
> >Ph: +1-978-399-2182 / Cell: +1-978-799-3338
>
>


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