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Surely you can directly use the standard libraries to test systemwide
but I am more curious to know if there are some who are still using
run_tests wrappings that exist for to ease the pain a bit.

On 3/4/16 12:41 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote:
> On 04/03/16 11:59 -0500, Nikhil Komawar wrote:
>> I think the hard question to me here is:
>>
>> Do people care about testing code on system installs vs. virtual env?
>> run_tests does that and for some cases when you want to be extra sure
>> about your CICD nodes, packaging and upgrades, the problem is solved.
>>
>> Are packagers using tox to this purpose?
>
> TBH, if you're testing things without venvs and sytemwide, I think
> it'd be far
> easier to just call nosetests/testr directly in your system than
> calling the
> run_tests script.
>
> Some packages don't even ship tests.
>
> Cheers,
> Flavio
>
>> On 3/4/16 11:16 AM, Steve Martinelli wrote:
>>>
>>> The keystone team did the same during Liberty while we were moving
>>> towards using oslo.* projects instead of oslo-incubator [0]. We also
>>> noticed that they were rarely used, and we did not go through a
>>> deprecation process since these are developer tools. We're still
>>> finding a few spots in our docs that need updating, but overall it was
>>> an easy transition.
>>>
>>> [0]
>>> https://github.com/openstack/keystone/commit/55e9514cbd4e712e2c317335294355cf1596d870
>>>
>>>
>>> stevemar
>>>
>>> Inactive hide details for Flavio Percoco ---2016/03/04 06:51:47
>>> AM---Hey Folks, I'm looking at doing some cleanups in our repo Flavio
>>> Percoco ---2016/03/04 06:51:47 AM---Hey Folks, I'm looking at doing
>>> some cleanups in our repo and I would like to start by
>>>
>>> From: Flavio Percoco <flavio at redhat.com>
>>> To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>>> Cc: openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org
>>> Date: 2016/03/04 06:51 AM
>>> Subject: [Openstack-operators] [glance] Remove `run_tests.sh` and
>>> `tools/*`
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm looking at doing some cleanups in our repo and I would like to
>>> start by
>>> deprecating the `run_tests` script and the contents in the `tools/`
>>> dir.
>>>
>>> As far as I can tell, no one is using this code - we're not even using
>>> it in the
>>> gate - as it was broken until recently, I believe. The recommended way
>>> to run
>>> tests is using `tox` and I believe having this script in the code base
>>> misleads
>>> new contributors and other users.
>>>
>>> So, before we do this. I wanted to get feedback from a broader
>>> audience and give
>>> a heads up to folks that might be using this code.
>>>
>>> Any objections? Something I'm missing?
>>>
>>> Flavio
>>>
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>> -- 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nikhil
>>
>

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Thanks,
Nikhil