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On 04/08/15 00:00, David Medberry wrote:
> I think planning for people to leave early is a very poor idea. Planning
> to make sure things that need to get done first is fine though.
> Let's not think of the second day as a partial day.

+1, we already do finish a little early on the second day to facilitate 
these folks. The other thing that may not be immediately clear is that 
the agenda is also specifically designed so that people who don't care 
as much can skip the feedback session/summit planning/breakout reports 
at the end of day 2.

As someone who spends about 30-40 hours on various planes and airports 
to get to and from this event, I struggle to find significant amounts of 
sympathy for those who feel it necessary to leave three quarters of the 
way through to get home "at a reasonable time" ;)

When all is said and done, if our content is compelling, people will 
stay. So, making our event so damn good that people don't want to leave 
even after it's finished should probably be our aim :D

Having said this, I don't think it was JJ's intention to do anything 
other than recognise the tools and mon session as important and make 
sure it received the most attention possible. That's valid.

Unfortunately, moving it to the previous day would basically just be 
moving the problem around - we're balancing the time slot used against 
conflicts in other time slots. Large Deployment Team for example is 
another very popular session, which has a lot of participant overlap 
between Monitoring and Tools, so it's probably not a good idea to run 
those against each other. Which means we're basically at a swap - should 
Tools be on Day 1, or should LDT be on day 1?

There's some thoughts on scheduling at: 
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups#Scheduling , which 
conclude with "Use best judgement, and get wide feedback.", and it's 
issues like this which are exactly why we have this email, so ... what 
do you think we should do? :)

Regards,



Tom

> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:49 AM, JJ Asghar <jj at chef.io
> <mailto:jj at chef.io>> wrote:
>
>     On 8/3/15 5:48 AM, Tom Fifield wrote:
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     Registrations are going well for our meetup in Palo Alto. If
>>     you're on the fence, hopefully this discussion will get you
>>     quickly over the line so you don't miss out!
>>
>>     http://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-ops-mid-cycle-meetup-tickets-17703258924
>>
>>     So, I've taken our suggestions and attempted to wrangle them into
>>     something that would fit in the space we have over 2 days.
>>
>>     As a reminder, we have two different kind of sessions - General
>>     Sessions, which are discussions for the operator community aimed
>>     to produce actions (eg best practices, feedback on badness),
>>     and**Working groups**focus on specific topics aiming to make
>>     concrete progress on tasks in that area.
>>
>>     As always, some stuff has been munged and mangled in an attempt to
>>     fit it in. For example, we'd expect to talk about Kolla more
>>     generally in the context of "Using Containers for Deployment",
>>     because there are some other ways to do that too. Similarly, we'd
>>     expect the "ops project" discussion to be rolled into the session
>>     on the user committee.
>>
>>     Anyway, take a look at the below and reply with your comments! Is
>>     anything missing? Something look like a terrible idea? Want to
>>     completely change the room layout? There's still a little bit of
>>     flexibility at this stage.
>>
>>
>>
>>     Tuesday 	Med II 	Med III 	Salon A 	Salon B 	Bacchus
>>     9:00 - 10:00 	Registration 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     10:00 - 10:30 	Introduction 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     10:30 - 11:15 	Burning Issues 	
>>     	
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>>     11:15 - 11:55 	Hypervisor Tuning 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     11:55 - 12:05 	Breakout Explain 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     12:05 - 13:30 	Lunch 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     13:30 - 15:00 	Large Deployments Team 	Burning Issues 	Logging
>>     WG 	Upgrades WG 	Ops Guide Fixing
>>     15:00 - 15:30 	Coffee 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     15:30 - 16:00 	Breakout Reports 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     16:00 - 17:00 	Using Containers for Deployment 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     17:00 - 18:00 	Lightening Talks 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
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>>     	
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>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     Wednesday 	Med II 	Med III 	Salon A 	Salon B 	Bacchus
>>     9:00 - 09:45 	CMDB: use cases 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     9:45 - 10:30 	Deployment Tips - read only slaves? admin-only API
>>     servers? 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     10:30 - 11:15 	What network model are you using? Are you happy? 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     11:15 - 11:30 	Coffee 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     11:30 - 12:15 	User Committee Discussion 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     12:15 - 12:20 	Breakout Explain 	
>>     	
>>     	
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>>     12:20 - 13:30 	Lunch 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     13:30 - 15:00 	Tools and Monitoring 	Product WG 	Packaging 	HPC
>>     Working Group 	Ops Tags Team
>>     15:00 - 15:30 	Coffee 	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     	
>>     15:30 - 16:00 	Breakout Reports 	
>>     	
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>>     16:00 - 17:00 	Feedback Session, Tokyo Planning 	
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>>     	
>>     	
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>>
>>
>>     There will be a followup email shortly regarding moderators for
>>     the sessions - thanks to those who volunteered so far!
>>
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>
>>     Tom
>>
>
>     Looks awesome Tom! I do have one suggestion though. If the Philly
>     Ops meetup was any suggestion, people started leaving by noon the
>     second day to catch flights. Tools and Monitoring, which is always a
>     great topic to discuss, probably should be moved to the first day.
>
>     Other than that great, and I'm crazy excited!
>
>     Best Regards,
>     JJ Asghar
>     c:512.619.0722  <tel:512.619.0722>  t: @jjasghar irc: j^2
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