Open Stack

I would wager to say that all operators also develop on OpenStack to some
degree.  You have to at this point in the maturity of OpenStack.  They may
not all be fixing bugs upstream, but they are certainly getting their
hands dirty with the code.  So I don't think there is group of people that
are purely operators.  However, not all developers also doing deployments
outside of DevStack.  I'd be in favor of an ops project to collect and
collaborate operational stuff, keeping in the mind the people
participating are not purely operators.  A longer term goal might even be
to include stuff into DevStack too.  Just my 2 euros, leftover from Paris.
=)

Thx,
britt

On 11/8/14, 7:23 PM, "Jeremy Stanley" <fungi at yuggoth.org> wrote:

>On 2014-11-08 04:08:08 -0500 (-0500), Fischer, Matt wrote:
>[...]
>> Perhaps some of the code fits in some places as previously
>> mentioned on the list, but the issue is that none of those
>> projects really focus on operations. The projects are inevitably
>> developer focused, despite the best attempts to get operator
>> feedback.
>[...]
>
>I would counter that we have lots of operator-focused projects
>already underway... the Infra and QA teams, for example, have plenty
>of projects which are entirely shell scripts and configuration
>management. If you were in any of the Deployment Program's design
>sessions, there was a fairly consistent message that Triple-O is
>encouraging direct involvement from the various config management
>teams to bring more officialness to the diverse tools with which
>OpenStack is deployed and managed at production sites.
>
>If the projects you want to start aren't focused on deployment and
>lifecycle management, nor on community infrastructure tools, nor on
>documentation, then I would buy that there's some potential project
>use cases for which we haven't made suitable homes yet. But I'd hate
>to see that used to further what I see as an unnecessary separation
>between "developers" and "operators."
>-- 
>Jeremy Stanley
>
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