[OpenStack-I18n] request for help from ESL readers

Brian Rosmaita rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com
Mon Apr 3 17:39:00 UTC 2017

Hello Ian,

Your comments are extremely helpful.  I'll wait a bit to see if anyone
else has comments, and then put up a patch following your suggestions.


On 4/3/17 12:53 PM, Ian Y. Choi wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> Thanks a lot for your sharing on thoughts on the spec.
> Recently, Docs team added a paragraph for new contributors with English
> as a second language [1],
> but the perspective you are asking is something different from [1] I think.
> For me, it seems that the paragraph does not clearly answer the question
> "How do you identify a producer or consumer?".
> In my opinion, the purpose of the detail description on this paragraph
> is to recall more thoughts
> with 'project ID' and 'user ID', and when I first see the title
> (question), I expect such as
>  "There are several approaches which help users to identify a producer
> or consumer".
>  "The first is ..., which .... It is useful when ... However, there can
> be a problem when...".
>  "The other possible approach can be ... It really solves the problem in
> the first approach by ...
>   However, there may be still some problems on ...".
> Then, I try to relate those two approaches I think into 'project ID' and
> 'user ID', but it is a little bit
> difficult for me to map into those two approaches with the details,
> advantages, and disadvantages.
> This is just my thought from my brief review when I read the spec, and I
> hope that
> more I18n team members and also Docs team contributors help better
> description for readers with English as Second Language.
> With many thanks,
> /Ian
> [1]
> https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/non-native-english-speakers.html
> Brian Rosmaita wrote on 4/3/2017 12:06 AM:
>> Hello i18n team,
>> There's a section of Glance documentation that's written in a colloquial
>> american english style, but some contributors have expressed concern
>> that this attempt to make a concept clear to non-technical american
>> english readers may actually make it more difficult for ESL readers to
>> understand.  It would be awesome if a few ESL people would take a look
>> and let us know what you think:
>> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/api/v2/sharing-image-api-v2.html#how-do-you-identify-a-producer-or-consumer
>> thanks,
>> brian
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