Open Stack

Hello,

Thank you for continuing discussion.

I have talked briefly with Elizabeth (pleia2).
Please see the conversation: 
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2016-10-11.log.html#t2016-10-11T16:22:46 
.

Let's also listen to pleia2's opinion after her looking.

And good news is that I met Kevin Carter (IRC: cloudnull) during the 
talk who can help on the openstack-ansible front :)


Frank Kloeker wrote on 10/11/2016 2:51 PM:
> Hi Akihiro,
>
> thanks for your reply. First of all: I'm not against Devstack. It's a 
> very useful tool to install OpenStack in a easy way. The problems 
> starting if you try to automate things and you trust the installation 
> scripts everytime.
> The runtime of the puppet-module which we developed this year takes at 
> least one hour. If you don't have a powerful VM or a bad internet 
> connection it takes a bit longer. So you are save with a 7200 seconds 
> timeout.
> On the other hand: DevStack code on master branch ist not stable at 
> all. Beside that I wouldn't expect that but we had have a very bad 
> phase in spring with a lots of broken installations. At the moment I 
> deal also with python3 requirements on Ubuntu 14.04 installation of 
> DevStack. It didn't work out.

Although I recently have not tried yet, such experience is also the same 
previously..

As I wrote previously, we do not have to make translate checksite stable 
all the time.
IMO we need to replace all the Horizon source (at least) and other 
sources during intensive horizon translation period,
but just replacing *.po files after release date to check and review 
stable translations might be sufficient
(sometimes Horizon source needs to be updated but much fewer than po 
file updates).

I am not pretty sure currently: which type of deployments (DevStack or 
openstack-ansible) will be more fit between soft freeze and hard freeze 
period.


With many thanks,

/Ian
> The other things are easy: Fetching the translation files from Zanata, 
> compile,restart apache, periodically. This things are already done.
> The problems starting again if you want update DevStack or reboot the 
> VM. Thats why I'm thinking about container. There is also an option in 
> DevStack (on LXC) but I've never tried this.
>
> kind regards
>
> Frank
>
>
> Am 2016-10-10 18:19, schrieb Akihiro Motoki:
>> Thanks Frank for initiating the discussion.
>>
>> I am not sure what was the real problem of DevStack-based check site.
>> Is it a problem that DevStack takes much time?
>> Regarding stability, DevStack itself rarely fails to run in my recent
>> experience.
>>
>> Anyway, I do not want to stick DevStack. The reason I used DevStack is
>> just because I am
>> an OpenStack developer and familiar with DevStack. That's all.
>> openstack-ansible is becoming stable, so it is a good candidate.
>>
>> I see several key points for the official horizon translation check
>> site:
>>
>> (1) It must be friendly with OpenStack infra scripts including puppet.
>>   - openstack-ansible may be a good candidate.
>>   - DevStack based approach takes too long time? timeout?
>> (2) How fast can the check site catch up with the horizon code base?
>>      We would like to use the latest horizon (hopefully with daily
>> update).
>>      It is needed to use latest translation as well.
>> (3) Can we import translation from Zanata? (IMO this is optional)
>> (4) ... (others?)
>>
>> My comparison (incomplete):
>> [DevStack]
>>
>>   (1) ? (Does it take too long? timeout?)
>>   (2)(3) can be covered by a custom script.
>> [openstack-ansible]
>>
>>   (1) nice if it works
>>   (2) it depends on how openstack-ansible catch up with the upstream
>> repository.
>>       Can openstack-ansible deploy horizon from the latest git
>> repository?
>>   (3) we can prepare a playbook or a shell script.
>>
>> Note that ,as a start line, I think we can deploy the translation
>> check site ONLY around the OpenStack release.
>> This mean we only need to run the site for about one month. We can try
>> to run it longer after that.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Akihiro
>>
>> 2016-10-06 1:19 GMT+09:00 Frank Kloeker <eumel at arcor.de>:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> maybe as you know we tried this year to bring the translation
>>> checksite on the stage. This wasn't sucessful because the developed
>>> puppet module which called DevStack rans out of time and the
>>> installation was very often broken. Not practical. Not usable.
>>> I have had a deeper look in the last days and I found out
>>> openstack-ansible could help us in this situation. There is also an
>>> All-In-One installation of OpenStack which puts all parts like
>>> Horizon separated into container. It's easy to catch the Horizon
>>> container, install the Zanata stuff and fetch the translation files
>>> periodically to show the changes of translation on the dashboard.
>>>
>>> Prototyp is running on https://i18n2.ref.app.telekomcloud.com/ [1]
>>> I have summarized all my thoughts on the etherpad:
>>>
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-os_translation-checksite 
>>
>>> [2]
>>>
>>> Pleass take a look and let me know if we should work in the next
>>> release cycle on this topic?
>>>
>>> kind regards
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
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>>> [3]
>>
>>
>>
>> Links:
>> ------
>> [1] https://i18n2.ref.app.telekomcloud.com/
>> [2] 
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-os_translation-checksite
>> [3] http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n
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