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Akihiro,

I've been trying to find where we documented the 90% cutoff used by Horizon
in past releases. I can't find it (and I'm afraid I'm the one who
documented it). Were you able to find that reference?

I think it's reasonable to manage the Horizon language list to match the
same set of languages for which we have PO files included in the project.
The 66% cutoff would apply in both cases then. It should be easy for a
consumer or distro to provide a shorter list than what we've defaulted by
changing the value of the LANGUAGES setting in local_settings.py or a
local_settings.d file.

Doug Fish



"Ying Chun Guo" <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com> wrote on 03/22/2016 05:56:45 AM:

> From: "Ying Chun Guo" <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>
> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com>
> Cc: "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org"
<openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
> Date: 03/22/2016 05:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Criteria of Horizon language list for
> Mitakarelease
>
> Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com> wrote on 03/22/2016 06:43:33 PM:
>
> > From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com>
> > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM at IBMCN
> > Cc: "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org"
> <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
> > Date: 03/22/2016 06:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Criteria of Horizon language list for
> > Mitakarelease
> >
> > 2016-03-22 18:00 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>:
> > > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com> wrote on 03/22/2016 02:27:21 AM:
> > >
> > >> From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com>
> > >> To: "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org"
> > > <Openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
> > >> Date: 03/22/2016 02:29 AM
> > >> Subject: [Openstack-i18n] Criteria of Horizon language list for
> Mitaka
> > > release
> > >>
> > >> Hi i18n team,
> > >>
> > >> As Horizon liaison, I would like to ask you all about the criteria
of
> > >> Horizon language list for Mitaka release.
> > >>
> > >> The same topic was discussed several releases ago and the consensus
> at
> > >> that time were:
> > >> * remove all translations with less than 90% progress
> > >> * update the language list accordingly.
> > >>
> > >> Translations were imported manually at that time and the situation
> may
> > >> be changed now.
> > >> I don't have an opinion and will just follow the i18n project
> decision.
> > >> If no response or well-defined criteria, I will just keep the
current
> > >> language list [1].
> > >
> > > Thank you for taking care of that, Akihiro.
> > > I don't see any requests to change the language list.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> The following is just information:
> > >> We have four PO files (django/djangojs for horizon and
> > > openstack_dashboard).
> > >> The current translation import policy for each PO file is
> documentedhere
> > > [2].
> > >> Each PO file is imported once the translation percentage becomes
over
> > > 75%
> > >> and it will be removed when the translation percentage becomes less
> than
> > > 20%.
> > >> What is our criteria?
> > >
> > > My opinion is to follow the previous guidelines.
> >
> > Do you mean we should remove <90% translations and update the lang
> > list accordingly?
> >
> > I made a quick survey. The result is not so happy, but I will just
> > follow the team decision.
> >
> > We have four PO files per language for horizon.
> > My understanding is 90% means 90% translations for all these PO files.
> > Unfortunately, as of today, only four languages satisfy this criteria
> > (90%): de, fr, ja, ko
> > If we change the criteria to 66%, we will have three more languages:
> > pt-br, ru, zh-cn.
> >
> > It is too sad statistics. openstack_dashboard/djangojs is the
> > bottleneck of the progress.
> >
> > On the other hand, the current language list contains 15 translated
> languages:
> > cs, de, en-gb, en-au, es, fr, it, ja, ko, pl, pt-br, ru, tr, zh-cn,
> zh-tw.
> >
>
> No, I didn't mean to remove <90% translations.
> Did we do that before ?
> I thought the criteria was 66%.
>
> I just realized the difference situation we met in this release.
> We have included plugin projects.
> Before mitaka, we only focus on Horizon translation.
> If we only take a look at the completion rate of Horizon[1], I think most
> active translation team have achieved >66%. So it means, we don't need to

> remove any languages from the list.
> If we consider the overall completion rate of plugin projects together
> with Horizon projects, some languages are less than 66%.
> My suggestion is to only consider the progress of Horizon project.
> 90% is too strict, I think. 66% is better.
>
> > Akihiro
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> In future releases, I think we should automate this as a part of
> > >> translation import jobs.
> > >> I will reduce the work of horizon liaison.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I agree.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Akihiro
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/
> > >> openstack_dashboard/settings.py#L198-L215
> > >> [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Translations/
> > >> Infrastructure#Translation_percentage_changes
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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