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Thank you for the clearly explanation.
Now I understand why you want to do that.
The changes are fine with me.
Thank you.

Best regards
Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)


Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse.com> wrote on 2015/04/23 17:44:16:

> From: Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse.com>
> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM at IBMCN
> Cc: dolph.mathews at gmail.com, "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org"
> <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
> Date: 2015/04/23 17:44
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Decreasing size of PO files
>
> On 04/23/2015 10:16 AM, Ying Chun Guo wrote:
> > Thank you for the information, Andreas.
> > I'm glad to see that you keep the original pot files untouched.
> > The location information in the pot are quite useful for our
translators.
> > The location information could be regarded as "context" while
> > translators translate.
> > Some language teams even allocate their tasks by files.
> > They will search in the whole translation resources by "file name".
> > Keeping location information in pot is quite necessary.
> >
> > As to po files, I guess, the location information is helpful when
> > generating the translated documents.
> > Have you ever tested building translated documents without locations ?
>
> Yes, I did - the "Test Import" change build these manuals without
> problems: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176322/
>
> > I think, the goal of reducing the size of PO files is to decrease the
> > size of the whole manuals project, isn't it ?
>
> My main goal is to reduce the frequency and size of *changes*.
>
> It's changes like this one:
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174213/1/doc/glossary/locale/zh_CN.po
> where nearly all location information changed and one or two strings get
> inserted that I'd like to avoid.
>
> It should be a tiny change (5 lines or so) change but it's a 2000 line
> change.
>
> > Do you know how much percentage is the po files in the whole manuals
> > project now ? Is it a big number ?
>
> The changes are large, just see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174213/
> - it's 27000 lines changed.
>
> And that amount of changes needs to be downloaded and stored,
>
> But decreasing overall size is also nice. Just looking at the Install
> Guide, we currently have 10005 lines as source.
>
> Locales before my change:
>     5262 locale/install-guide.pot
>     8317 locale/ja.po
>     8330 locale/ko_KR.po
>     8325 locale/pt_BR.po
>     8322 locale/ru.po
>     8334 locale/zh_CN.po
>    46890 total
>
> Locales after my change:
>     5282 locale/install-guide.pot
>     6489 locale/ja.po
>     4155 locale/ko_KR.po
>     6908 locale/pt_BR.po
>     5251 locale/ru.po
>     6669 locale/zh_CN.po
>    34754 total
>
>
> If we notice that this does not work as expected, we can always revert -
> we will not loose anything with this since we keep location information
> in POT file and transifex and only remove them when importing in our
> projects.
>
> A followup patch for all the other projects will be done once I've seen
> this in action for a few days. Dolph suggested this when we talked about
> keystone imports. Since I monitor manuals myself, I wanted to have it
> tested there first,
>
> Andreas
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