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Hi Francois, Yves,

Thanks for checking the difference between the current and the proposed one.
This is stats in case of Japanese. Luckily I completed translation at now,
so it is a good measure to check how more strings we need to work on.

Juno (current) : 2473 translated messages.
Experimental : 2409 translated messages, 86 fuzzy translations, 10
untranslated messages. (total 2505)

It shows that 30 strings are added in total and 96 strings require
additional work.
Considering most of them are strings which indicate instance status
and action title/post message,
I think the addition is relatively small compared to the whole bunch
of translated work needed.

As a conclusion, I am a favor of the change :-)

Thanks,
Akihiro


On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 5:36 PM, François Bureau
<francois.bureau at cloudwatt.com> wrote:
> Hello Akihiro,
>
> I have made a merge between the current Juno Dashboard translation and the Experimental project and uploaded it into Transifex.
>
> I wanted to know if we were going to lose a lot of translation.
>
> Here is the result for the French language :
>
> Untranslated Strings :
> - Current project (Juno) : 87 strings (992 words)
> - Experimental project : 132 strings (1,133 words)
>
> For me the difference is not very important and we will be able to quickly manage the missing/new strings.
>
> So I am in favor of this change :)
>
> Best regards,
>
> F.
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Akihiro Motoki [mailto:amotoki at gmail.com]
> Envoyé : mardi 9 septembre 2014 09:36
> À : Ying Chun Guo
> Cc : openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> Objet : Re: [Openstack-i18n] Allow translators to translate BatchActions
>
> Thanks,
>
> It is time to decide whether we should have this in Juno or defer it to Kilo.
> I created POT file based on this change and uploaded it to Transifex as Daisy requested
> (https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/horizon/resource/openstack-dashboard-translations-experimental/)
> For the detail change and differences from the original, please check the original review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91338/.
>
> As I18N team member, I am happy with this change though there are a couple of things to be improved.
> On the other hand, we need to take into account the pain for developers, and we need to discuss this in the horizon team meeting this week (today).
>
> Thought?
> Akihiro
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com> wrote:
>> Thank you for working on it.
>> I do wonder if you or somebody could create a pot file with all the
>> influenced strings.
>> I can create a new project in Transifex and upload this pot file.
>> Then translators could see these strings and the context information
>> from the translation UI.
>> We can evaluate whether these context information could help the
>> translation.
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
>>
>>
>> Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis <yves-gwenael.bourhis at cloudwatt.com> wrote on
>> 2014/09/04 17:39:41:
>>
>>> Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis <yves-gwenael.bourhis at cloudwatt.com>
>>> 2014/09/04 17:39
>>>
>>> To
>>>
>>> openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org,
>>>
>>> cc
>>>
>>> Subject
>>>
>>> [Openstack-i18n] Allow translators to translate BatchActions
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I reported a bug concerning the way strings where conjugated on
>>> action buttons here:
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1307476
>>>
>>> The issue is that automatic conjugation works in English, but may
>>> lead the impossibility to have a properly translated string in some
>>> languages which have different and more complex conjugation rules.
>>>
>>> I made a patch to fix this here:
>>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91338/
>>> However, not all strings are fixed in this patch, only a few ones,
>>> and I kept the legacy conjugation method not to brake all existing
>>> strings on the action buttons at once.
>>> This patch will allow developers to progressively change strings on
>>> action buttons per translators request, to strings which can have
>>> proper translations.
>>>
>>> I also added contextual markers on instance actions or status. i.e.:
>>> "Shut Down" could be an action to perform, or an instance status,
>>> which is the same string in English but different in many languages,
>>> this patch allows differentiating them.
>>>
>>> Could it help to have a test catalog on Transifex based on this patch
>>> to have translators feedback on the change brought to the strings?
>>> The translators could give feedback to know if translations are improved.
>>> Also translators could ask for more strings which they could not
>>> translate properly before, to be migrated to this new translating
>>> method on action buttons as new (dependent) patches.
>>>
>>> Also, how fast do translators want all the existing "action buttons"
>>> and "status" strings to be migrated to this method? If all are
>>> migrated at once we would lose a lot of the currently existing
>>> translations on action buttons and status (even though they are not
>>> properly translatable) and they would have to be translated again.
>>> So adding patches progressively could bring smooth changes. This is
>>> where translators feedback would be interesting to know if:
>>>
>>> - The changes allow translating properly?
>>> - They want smooth changes on action buttons to translate
>>> progressively, or want a complete fix right now because to many
>>> buttons can not be translated properly?
>>> - They want changes in other places too where they can not currently
>>> translate properly?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis
>>>
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