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Hi all,

I updated the String Freeze wiki page [0] to reflect the main points
discussed in this thread and in [1]. Let me know how I can improve it and
if there is something I misunderstood.

I also decided to add a link to that wiki in [2] in order to keep
consistency. I decided not to wipe the feature freeze description there
because the way it is written is more adequate for translators and
complements [0].

Cheers,

[0] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StringFreeze
[1]
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-March/029868.html
[2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Translations#String_Freeze


2014-03-31 5:33 GMT-03:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>:

> Hello, Julie
>
> Thank you for bring it up.
> Yes, the wiki page for string freeze should be updated.
>
> See my comments below.
>
> Best regards
> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
>
>
> Julie Pichon <jpichon at redhat.com> wrote on 2014/03/26 02:43:00:
>
> > Julie Pichon <jpichon at redhat.com>
> > 2014/03/26 02:43
> >
> > To
> >
> > "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org" <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>,
>
> >
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> >
> > [Openstack-i18n] Clarifying String Freeze
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > During the weekly Horizon meeting [0], a few questions from the Horizon
> > team came up about String Freeze. I think the wiki page on String Freeze
> > [1] at the moment does not match the wishes of the translation team,
> > based on previous conversations [2].
> >
> > It would be really helpful if the wiki page could be updated to match
> > what the i18n team would prefer. At the moment, in Horizon it seems
> > what we're doing, and planning on doing, is this (somewhat similar to
> > what happened in Havana):
> >
> >  - During String Freeze and until RC1, small string changes are ok
> >    (Horizon core can just approve)
> >  - During String Freeze, string changes in the "grey zone" should use
> >    the exception approval process on the wiki (email to i18n list)
>
> What do you mean by "grey zone"?
> Does it include the "small string changes" mentioned in the previous item?
>
> >  - After RC1 is released, every string change should follow the
> >    exception approval process on the wiki (email to i18n list) ??? -
> >    this isn't clearly defined yet, maybe it needs to be earlier?
> >
>
> I think, after RC1, we should avoid string changes.
> If a string change is required strongly, I18n team should be notified.
> Because most of translation teams will complete translation before RC1 is
> shipped.
> Then they might not pay much attention to the update of strings.
> I think the third item in the process of "exception of SF" has mentioned
> to send email to openstack-i18n.
>
>
> > Point #3 is about when the "soft freeze" needs to become a "hard freeze".
> >
> > What is the grey zone? I'm not entirely sure either. An example was:
> > adding several new strings for what could be considered a
> > "mini-feature", during the RC period. Perhaps we can start with this
> > kind of examples + "when in doubt, ask on the i18n list" to define what
> > is the grey zone.
>
> It's hard to define the "grey zone".
> In my mind, below two cases should be accepted:
> 1. A string is misunderstanding and should be updated.
> 2. A string should be translated yet not marked with _().
>
> What else is in your mind?
>
>
> >
> > In general, I think updating the wiki page would really help reviewers
> > assess patches with a clearer understanding of what is helpful to the
> > i18n/translation team during string freeze, and what might require
> > exception approval or more discussion.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
>
> I think, a notification mechanism will be helpful.
> We might not force developers to add "String Impact" tag.
> We could revise the jobs to update Transifex resources
> to add a step to send a notification to translators.
> It's possible.
>
> > Julie
> >
> > [0]
> > http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.
>
> > 2014-03-25-16.00.log.html
> > [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StringFreeze
> > [2]
> >
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-March/029868.html
> >
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