[Openstack-i18n] Release notes

SungJin Kang gang.sungjin at gmail.com
Tue Oct 22 11:51:05 UTC 2013


Hi,

Release Note wiki page add category.

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Category:I18n

Thanks,
Sungjin


2013/10/22 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com>

> As long as it is easy to use and effective, any translation tool and
> way will do.
> I am not sure what is the best way to translate openstack wiki.
>
> I don't think I can contribute this area, but
> there are several important topics to be considered.
>
> The pages in OpenStack wiki can be categorized into two areas:
> - Official contents (top page, release notes and some useful information)
> - Development purpose to share ideas
> The first category is worth translated, but I don't see any value in
> the second area.
> IMO it is not a good idea to import all pages as a whole because
> translators cannot
> know which pages have priority and which pages do not.
>
> In addition, MediaWiki has many directives.
> When converting translated version of pages, such cases should be
> considered.
> Some directives depends the structures (the directive I used to list
> subpages is a good example)
> These directives has no meaning in sub pages and they should not exist
> in sub pages.
>
> Thanks,
> Akihiro
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks, Akihiro
> >
> > Maybe in some days, translation of important wiki pages become our team's
> > official works.
> > We need to find an efficient way for wiki translation while we are
> > evaluating the new translation tools.
> >
> > I personally don't like to use MediaWiki directly as the translation
> tool.
> > Because translation memory and glossary don't work here.
> > But as a temporary solution, I think MediaWiki is good enough.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
> >
> > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com> wrote on 2013/10/22 12:49:25:
> >
> >> Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com>
> >> 2013/10/22 12:49
> >
> >>
> >> To
> >>
> >> Gabriel Wainer <gabrielcw at gmail.com>,
> >>
> >> cc
> >>
> >> Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM at IBMCN, "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org"
> >> <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
> >
> >>
> >> Subject
> >>
> >> Re: [Openstack-i18n] Release notes
> >>
> >> Hi Daisy, Gabriel and all,
> >>
> >> I prefer to editing MediaWiki directly too. I believe it is more human
> >> friendly interface.
> >>
> >> I would like to share small tips to track the changes in the English
> >> pages.
> >> I use the wiki history use to track the change in the original.
> >>
> >> ----
> >> - Go to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Havana
> >> - Click "Page" at left upper and select "History"
> >> - You can see the history.
> >> - Click a date of a page you use.
> >> - You see a snopshot page of each revision
> >> - Copy URL and paste it into your translation page.
> >>   (e.g., https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=ReleaseNotes/
> >> Havana&oldid=33339
> >> )
> >>
> >> From this page you can check the diff to the latest page or newer
> version.
> >> ----
> >>
> >> I think this is the version we started to discuss the release note
> >> translation.
> >>
> >>
> https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=ReleaseNotes/Havana&oldid=32971
> >> There are a few updates in the original page.
> >> https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=ReleaseNotes/
> >> Havana&diff=cur&oldid=32971
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Akihiro
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Gabriel Wainer <gabrielcw at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > HI all,
> >> >
> >> > If the update goes like this, I wonder if I need to translate
> >> > intotransifex
> >> > at all. Because I prefer to do it directly in the wiki also...
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Gabriel.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi, SungJin
> >> >>
> >> >> How is the wiki page going?
> >> >> Do you need my help?
> >> >>
> >> >> Chinese translation is also finished.
> >> >> I found Transifex was not so good at wiki page translation.
> >> >> When I moved the translations to OpenStack wiki,
> >> >> I made a lot of changes in the format.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
> >> >>
> >> >> SungJin Kang <gang.sungjin at gmail.com> wrote on 2013/10/22 01:30:21:
> >> >>
> >> >> > SungJin Kang <gang.sungjin at gmail.com>
> >> >> > 2013/10/22 01:30
> >> >> >
> >> >> > To
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Gabriel Wainer <gabrielcw at gmail.com>,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > cc
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org"
> >> >> > <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Subject
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Re: [Openstack-i18n] Release notes
> >> >> >
> >> >> > huk......
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Orz......
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > 2013/10/22 Gabriel Wainer <gabrielcw at gmail.com>
> >> >> > Oh man! I was creating the wiki page directly. I will copy to
> >> >> > transifex since probably it will be overridden :/
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:59 PM, SungJin Kang
> >> >> > <gang.sungjin at gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ko_KR 100%...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > but I don't know from transifex to Wiki page.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > Sungjin
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > 2013/10/22 Gabriel Wainer <gabrielcw at gmail.com>
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > pt_BR is around 30% done and counting.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Best,
> >> >> > Gabriel.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com
> >
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > Hi all,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How is your translation going?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We Japanese team completed the translation of Havana release notes
> >> >> > (with some reviews)
> >> >> > and announced it on the japanese mailing lists and twitter Saturday
> >> >> > night.
> >> >> > It is really nice we have translated version of the release notes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Note that I have not created a link in the official release note
> page
> >> >> > to translated wiki pages.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > Akihiro
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Ying Chun Guo <
> guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/
> >> Havana#OpenStack_Documentation
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I feel the release notes should be translated too.
> >> >> > > Who has the same feeling ?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Regards
> >> >> > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
>
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