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Hello Brian,

After seeing the mail thread, I have a question on sphinxmark and 
building PDFs.

Now I would like to generate PDF files using the same rst sources.
Currently the spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364477/ is under review,
and at the same time, I am experiencing rst2pdf Sphinx extension on my 
local environment.

Then, sphinxmark will also support watermarks for PDFs?
Although I would leave watermarks in PDFs as out of scope in the spec,
if the support of PDF watermarks is possible, then I would like to also 
consider to include watermarks in PDFs.


With many thanks,

/Ian


Anne Gentle wrote on 9/8/2016 11:02 AM:
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> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Brian Moss <kallimachos at gmail.com 
> <mailto:kallimachos at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 7 September 2016 at 23:49, Anne Gentle
>     <annegentle at justwriteclick.com
>     <mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com>> wrote:
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>
>
>         On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Brian Moss
>         <kallimachos at gmail.com <mailto:kallimachos at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Hi Mahesh,
>
>             Glad you like it! I think we want the image to repeat down
>             the page so if someone links to the middle of a long page
>             they still have an indication of which version they are
>             looking at. However, perhaps the spacing between images
>             can be increased so they do not appear as frequently.
>
>             I've filed a couple of issues for sphinxmark to add these
>             as config options so we can experiment and find the best
>             look for the OpenStack docs.
>
>             https://github.com/kallimachos/sphinxmark/issues/12
>             <https://github.com/kallimachos/sphinxmark/issues/12>
>             https://github.com/kallimachos/sphinxmark/issues/13
>             <https://github.com/kallimachos/sphinxmark/issues/13>
>
>
>
>         If the solution is experimental, and the readability is poor,
>         let's revert until we have a design we've all agreed to. Right
>         now I find it really distracting and hard to read. Maybe I
>         missed the design phase -- totally possible -- but the current
>         overlay watermark makes the Mitaka install guide not readable.
>
>         Can you come up with some next steps and let us know the plan?
>
>         Anne
>
>
>     A few options that are immediately available would be to reduce
>     the opacity of the watermark, change its color, and/or reduce the
>     font size. For example, the current opacity is 40. This is what it
>     looks like set to 10:
>
>     http://docs-draft.openstack.org/29/367029/1/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/4b8dd8c//publish-docs/draft/install-guide-ubuntu/index.html
>     <http://docs-draft.openstack.org/29/367029/1/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/4b8dd8c//publish-docs/draft/install-guide-ubuntu/index.html>
>
>     Alternatively, an image can be used in place of the text if we
>     have one that is more suitable than the text-based solution.
>
>     If the concern is with having the watermark behind the text and we
>     want it somewhere else on the page, that will require a bit more
>     effort to implement.
>
>     If the above config options don't provide the desired result,
>     watermarks can be turned off by setting 'sphinxmark_enable =
>     False' in the conf.py files of the relevant books.
>
>     If you have a particular look in mind, let me know and I'll see
>     what I can do to make it happen. :)
>
>
> At the risk of sounding like I'm late to the party or simply being a 
> grumpy cat, I need to point out that the bug you worked against 
> doesn't talk about the design. 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1479166 
> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1479166>
>
> Ideally this solution would have been designed, gotten feedback, 
> tested, then implemented. Right now you're getting feedback so there's 
> still work to be done to get a design then do the right implementation.
>
> Ideas:
> * The versioning indicator designs I get the most positive response to 
> are the ones on readthedocs.org <http://readthedocs.org>. It's in the 
> corner, stays in the same place regardless of scroll point, and it 
> provides links to other versions. Seems to address comment #3 in the 
> bug above more than a background watermark does.
>
> * The design for a watermark we had in the past was vertical rather 
> than horizontal and did not overlap any text. 
> http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/ Your 
> second iteration of more transparency helps but still overlaps the text.
>
> I'd like more design work up-front please, and more explanation in the 
> bug of how the design addressed the concerns. We can get more use out 
> of this beyond the install guide if it's designed based on input. 
> Think of the CLI guides, they are not tied to a release name but a 
> release number. Can your solution solve for more uses than a 
> word-based release name?
> Anne
>
>
>
>     Brian
>
>
>
>             Cheers,
>
>             Brian
>
>             On 7 September 2016 at 15:12, venkata mahesh
>             <venkatamaheshkotha at gmail.com
>             <mailto:venkatamaheshkotha at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Hi team,
>
>                 The addition of release name (Mitaka) in the
>                 background is nice. My suggestion is make this version
>                 name Mitaka in the background only one in each page.
>                 Now it is having more than five ( Mitaka )images in
>                 background that will distract the reader.
>
>                 Thanks
>                 mahesh
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