[OpenStack-docs] [training-guides] Team meeting reminder
Ian Y. Choi
ianyrchoi at gmail.com
Fri Sep 2 22:40:43 UTC 2016
Hello,
Please see my inline reply:
Ildiko Vancsa wrote on 9/2/2016 9:25 PM:
>
>> On 02 Sep 2016, at 11:30, Pančur, Matjaž <Matjaz.Pancur at fri.uni-lj.si
>> <mailto:Matjaz.Pancur at fri.uni-lj.si>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 01 Sep 2016, at 23:58, Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> We have four potential days to run mini virtual sprints according to
>>> the current state of the poll, which are:
>>>
>>> * Sept. 6 / Tuesday
>>> * Sept. 12-13 / Monday-Tuesday
>>> * Sept. 16. / Friday
>>>
>>> The poll is still open if anyone would like to join us:
>>> http://doodle.com/poll/geaq6fdsg749nsnc
>>
>> I won’t be available for the whole day, but I will join as much as I
>> can. I’ll look at the review queue regularly, though.
>
> As we are not in the same time zone, I don’t think it’s an issue. The
> point here is to have time periods when we are focusing on this
> activity by adding and reviewing content. Regarding communication,
> does the training guides team has an IRC channel? Or should we use
> #upstream-university for these sprints?
We use #openstack-doc channel for general communication including
several specialty teams, and if we are focusing on something, IMO
opening a virtual sprint and discussing on #openstack-sprint channel
would be nice.
For #upstream-university, although AFAIK it is designed for the
communication with upstream university students (e.g., mentoring),
we can use, but one (minor) problem I think is that the channel bot
(upunbot) seems to be dead.
>
> I will also generate a Google Hangout link we can use if we have more
> people available at the same time and there’s a topic that needs
> brainstorming as I think a call sometimes more effective than the text
> based chat. We can use IRC for clarifying smaller things and giving
> heads up to the team for new reviews for instance or leaving notes to
> others in other time zones. :) Does it sound ok?
>
>>
>>> I think if we choose a content block and goals wisely we can have
>>> great progress in these intervals, I will add proposals to the
>>> etherpad
>>> (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-university-improvements).
>>>
>>> @Ian, Matjaz: I’ve lost track a little bit on the Training Guides
>>> meetings. It would be great if we could use the slot on Monday for
>>> planning regardless we have an actual meeting scheduled or not. Do
>>> you think it would be possible?
>>
>> Yes, absolutely. You can even add specific topics to the official
>> meeting agenda at
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda
>
> Great, I added this item to the etherpad.
+1
>
>>
>>> I was also thinking to run the meetings weekly in September and
>>> first half of October or maybe even until the Summit to check
>>> progress and ensure we are coordinated. What do you think?
>>
>> We switched to biweekly schedule because the attendance at the
>> meetings was low and we wanted to see if biweekly schedule is enough.
>> Fortunately, we still have a reservation for weekly meetings so I see
>> no problems with this.
>
> I saw in the meeting schedule that it is still listed as weekly
> meeting, so I hoped that it will not be an issue from administration
> perspective. :) I think before the Summit we will need a weekly sync
> to ensure we finish with our plans and prepped for the next training
> properly.
>
+1 Have a nice weekend too!
With many thanks,
/Ian
> Have a nice weekend, talk to you on Monday!
>
> Thanks,
> Ildikó
>
>>
>> What do others think? We switch bask to weekly meetings until the Summit?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Matjaz
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and Best Regards,
>>> Ildikó
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 31 Aug 2016, at 19:55, Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing your availability.
>>>>
>>>> I created a Doodle poll with dates:
>>>> http://doodle.com/poll/geaq6fdsg749nsnc Anyone who’s interested,
>>>> please add your availability if you’re interested to participate.
>>>>
>>>> I think we can aim for multiple shorter periods rather than one
>>>> long one as we have multiple areas to improve. I would like to have
>>>> well defined areas like:
>>>>
>>>> * Updating the common content
>>>> * Work on the exercises for the code contribution block
>>>> * Work on content and exercises for the Documentation contribution
>>>> block
>>>> * Finalise and test the Dev env.
>>>> * Etc.
>>>>
>>>> If possible it would be great to have drivers for each of these
>>>> blocks. We can then decide based on people’s availability to what
>>>> to work on in a more focused way and when and we also need to
>>>> define goals to see what progress we made.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ildikó
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 31 Aug 2016, at 05:56, Ian Y. Choi <ianyrchoi at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:ianyrchoi at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Ildiko,
>>>>>
>>>>> Great!
>>>>>
>>>>> But unfortunately, due to my personal schedule, approximately, Sep
>>>>> 7 12:00 UTC - 9 12:00 UTC will not be available for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be okay to have a sprint on around Sep 10-15?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With many thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> /Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> Ildiko Vancsa wrote on 8/31/2016 2:38 AM:
>>>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the link for the sprint.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we can make it 100% official and post on the wiki page as
>>>>>> well. The idea is to have dedicated time, when we focus on
>>>>>> content, exercises, environment, etc. We need to decide the scope
>>>>>> and define goals for the sprint and work on to achieve those.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After talking to a few people mid- or second half of next week
>>>>>> seems like a good target, e.g. Sept 6-8 or 7-9. I think that
>>>>>> gives us enough time to figure out the sprint goals and it’s
>>>>>> still in time from the Summit/training perspective, so we can
>>>>>> either have another round of this if needed or work more offline
>>>>>> on remaining items.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Ildikó
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2016, at 17:05, Ian Y. Choi <ianyrchoi at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:ianyrchoi at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Mark,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For a newcomer, a desktop screen with basic explanation on the
>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>> (e.g., default user ID, default password, "/opt/stack" directory
>>>>>>> + upstream training logo if it is okay)
>>>>>>> likehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/31838982@N08/7798881316/(I
>>>>>>> searched on Google) would be nice I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For network connectivity on OpenStack instances, I usually used
>>>>>>> the following command. I am sure it will work well
>>>>>>> : $ sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Ildiko,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IMO testing virtual machine environment is also a good topic for
>>>>>>> our sprint, so I updated on Etherpad.
>>>>>>> And will our sprint be a kind virtual sprint,
>>>>>>> likehttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/VirtualSprints?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With many thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /Ian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark Korondi1 wrote on 8/26/2016 4:13 AM:
>>>>>>>> Thanks Ian for the constructive critique!
>>>>>>>> Before addressing the issues, I want to ask the others too, if
>>>>>>>> you try out the image, please think of what *you* as a newcomer
>>>>>>>> would be happy to start with (firefox bookmarks, editor
>>>>>>>> settings, missing tools which are not installed, etc.)
>>>>>>>> Especially if there's windows/osx people here, I'd be happy to
>>>>>>>> hear what would you miss from the VM what you use on the host
>>>>>>>> machine. Thanks guys!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - I would recommend to enable "Reinitialize the MAC address of all
>>>>>>>> network cards" option when importing the virtual appliance
>>>>>>>> using VirtualBox.
>>>>>>>> OK, TBD
>>>>>>>> - There is a warning: "The shared folder 'vagrant' could not be
>>>>>>>> set up:
>>>>>>>> Shared folder path
>>>>>>>> '/home/oro/projects/_github.com/kmARC/openstack-training-virtual-environment'
>>>>>>>> <http://github.com/kmARC/openstack-training-virtual-environment%27>
>>>>>>>> is not absolute."
>>>>>>>> Yeah, I realized this, will remove
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - It seems that DevStack source is already stored in the OVA
>>>>>>>> file. We
>>>>>>>> might need to guide users to execute 'git pull' to retrieve the
>>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>> DevStack source.
>>>>>>>> I'll build the image one or two days before the actual course,
>>>>>>>> so it won't be a problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - No port forwarding and additional host-only network interface
>>>>>>>> prevent
>>>>>>>> users from accessing Horizon on users' host OS environment.
>>>>>>>> (e.g., the connection from Internet Explorer (out of
>>>>>>>> VirtualBox) to
>>>>>>>> Horizon (executing in the virtual machine) is not supported.)
>>>>>>>> On the network side I'll do some more improvements. Now it's
>>>>>>>> not even possible to start a VM and get networking in it, IIRC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - If we might use old OVA images during upstream training (as
>>>>>>>> fresh as
>>>>>>>> possible would be nice but freshest DevStack environment would
>>>>>>>> be so
>>>>>>>> ideal), then making DevStack offline (using 'OFFLINE=True'
>>>>>>>> option in
>>>>>>>> local.conf) would be also nice to less use network bandwidth.
>>>>>>>> Oh, I didn't know about this. We will definitely use it then,
>>>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>>> I try to fix these over the weekend, stay tuned for the next
>>>>>>>> "release" :-)
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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