[OpenStack-docs] [training-guides] Team meeting reminder

Ian Y. Choi ianyrchoi at gmail.com
Thu Aug 25 14:57:48 UTC 2016


Hello!

@Ildiko,

I agree with your idea: adding questions to the registration page to see 
expectations :)

@Mark,

I have executed it on my Windows 10 and also Mac OS X environment. The 
followings are my brief feedback and thoughts:

- DevStack installation and execution work so fine :) And it was easy!
- I would recommend to enable "Reinitialize the MAC address of all 
network cards" option when importing the virtual appliance using VirtualBox.
- There is a warning: "The shared folder 'vagrant' could not be set up: 
Shared folder path 
'/home/oro/projects/_github.com/kmARC/openstack-training-virtual-environment' 
is not absolute."
- It seems that DevStack source is already stored in the OVA file. We 
might need to guide users to execute 'git pull' to retrieve the latest 
DevStack source.
- No port forwarding and additional host-only network interface prevent 
users from accessing Horizon on users' host OS environment.
  (e.g., the connection from Internet Explorer (out of VirtualBox) to 
Horizon (executing in the virtual machine) is not supported.)
- If we might use old OVA images during upstream training (as fresh as 
possible would be nice but freshest DevStack environment would be so 
ideal), then making DevStack offline (using 'OFFLINE=True' option in 
local.conf) would be also nice to less use network bandwidth.


With many thanks,

/Ian


Ildiko Vancsa wrote on 8/23/2016 11:06 PM:
> Hi All,
>
> First of all thank you everyone, it’s really good to see we’re having 
> progress! :)
>
> @Ian: Thanks for adding notes to the etherpad.
>
> Regarding preparation, do you mean to encourage people to put together 
> a dev env for themselves to specify it a prerequisite? I think we can 
> communicate what we decide in the notification mail that they get 
> after registration. I prefer adding questions to the registration page 
> to see what people’s expectations are rather than prerequisites.
>
> I think a Sandbox Launchpad page would be good for practice. It would 
> also be nice to teach people how to find bugs that they will most 
> likely be able to fix and which are really worth to fix at the same 
> time and guide them through the process through those. But we can 
> discuss this topic further.
>
> @Mark: Thanks for the script and sharing the Github page. I added the 
> link and your notes to our etherpad.
>
> I would like to encourage everyone who has some time to try it out and 
> give feedback either regarding how easy it was to use or about 
> improvements, bugs, etc.!
>
> I also added a section on remote content sprint to the etherpad. It 
> would be great if the few of us who’re working on this could have some 
> dedicated time to work on the missing pieces and being able to sync 
> up. I proposed a time period and goals. Please add your thoughts and 
> preferences to the section as well.
>
> If you have any questions, comments or further topics/ideas please add 
> them to the etherpad or reply to this thread.
>
> Thanks and Best Regards,
> Ildikó
>
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 05:28, Mark Korondi1 <ORO at zurich.ibm.com 
>> <mailto:ORO at zurich.ibm.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> https://github.com/kmARC/openstack-training-virtual-environment
>> I put some screenshots in the document, and there is a ready to use 
>> ova appliance that you can import into virtualbox. There will be some 
>> more minor modifications s.t.:
>> - I think currently it tries to mount a network share from host which 
>> will fail and result in a warning message you can ignore
>> - We need to put all the URL's pointing to the training materials 
>> into the browsers home page
>> - etc.
>> If you feel like having 30-60 minutes to play with it, any feedbacks 
>> are welcome.
>> Mark
>>
>>     ----- Original message -----
>>     From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:ianyrchoi at gmail.com>>
>>     To: Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com>>
>>     Cc: "Pančur,Matjaž" <Matjaz.Pancur at fri.uni-lj.si
>>     <mailto:Matjaz.Pancur at fri.uni-lj.si>>, openstack-docs
>>     <openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org
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>>     <women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>     <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>>, Mark Korondi1
>>     <ORO at zurich.ibm.com <mailto:ORO at zurich.ibm.com>>, Lana Brindley
>>     <openstack at lanabrindley.com <mailto:openstack at lanabrindley.com>>,
>>     Tomoyuki Kato <kato.tomoyuki at jp.fujitsu.com
>>     <mailto:kato.tomoyuki at jp.fujitsu.com>>
>>     Subject: Re: [OpenStack-docs] [training-guides] Team meeting reminder
>>     Date: Sat, Aug 20, 2016 2:17 AM
>>     Hello Ildiko,
>>
>>     Thanks a lot for sharing the meeting notes, and sorry for not
>>     participating in the last meeting.
>>     (It was 2:00 AM locally, and this constraint sometimes prevent me
>>     from
>>     attending the meeting.)
>>
>>     I have read all of them, and it is so nice! I would like to
>>     propose the
>>     followings:
>>
>>     1) I generally agree with our on-going steps, but I would like to
>>     more
>>     encourage participants to prepare
>>     such development environment, although we will provide it as a
>>     virtual
>>     machine.
>>     So it would be much better if we specify 'Prerequisites' or
>>     'Preparation' on the upstream training registration page,
>>     rather than announcing 'How to prepare' page (
>>     http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/#how-to-prepare )
>>     after the
>>     registration.
>>
>>     2) I am not sure if there is 'OpenStack Sandbox' launchpad which is
>>     linked to our sandbox repository
>>     http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/sandbox .
>>     Such launchpad would be nice for exercise, rather than dealing with
>>     triaging and changing bug status on real OpenStack project bugs.
>>
>>
>>     With many thanks,
>>
>>     /Ian
>>
>>     Ildiko Vancsa wrote on 8/18/2016 6:51 AM:
>>     > Hi All,
>>     >
>>     > As we agreed on the meeting I would like to start a follow-up
>>     mail thread to decide on tasks and next steps.
>>     >
>>     > As a reminder here’s the etherpad that holds the current
>>     status, plans and feedback from the Austin training:
>>     https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-university-improvements
>>     >
>>     > We have three main topics, which are the content and format of
>>     the training, the tooling around the administrational tasks and
>>     the development environment for the hands-on parts of the training.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Content and format
>>     >
>>     > * We decided this Monday to concentrate purely on updating the
>>     content for Barcelona and skip to update and/or rethink the
>>     tooling that creates the slides
>>     > * Next steps:
>>     > * Identify parts we would like to keep and update them (in
>>     progress)
>>     > * Identify parts and modules that we want to include and need
>>     new content
>>     > * Decide about the format (how much to use PBL, excercises,
>>     modules, etc.)
>>     > * Define tasks from the list of items
>>     > * Find assignees
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Tooling for administration
>>     >
>>     > * Plans are already outlined on the etherpad
>>     > * Next steps
>>     > * Decide about the end goal
>>     > * Define tasks and time plan
>>     > * Find assignees
>>     > * We can also run one or a few meetings with who’s interested
>>     as the tool planned and should be good for the mentoring program
>>     as well for instance
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Development environment
>>     >
>>     > * We decided on the meeting to go with the idea of having a VM
>>     that runs on the students’ laptops and use public cloud instances
>>     as a backup option
>>     > * We have an offer from DreamCompute to help us out with public
>>     cloud access for those who need it
>>     > * A script is already ready to put together the VM image:
>>     https://github.com/kmARC/openstack-training-virtual-environment
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > We also plan to have a remote content sprint. We need to define
>>     the tasks we need to do in order to be able to set up the goals
>>     for this sprint and be efficient and productive. It would be a
>>     great way of getting some or maybe all of the content work done
>>     for example if we have enough participants. The ideal time would
>>     be early September which should give us enough time to finish
>>     whatever has left for Barcelona still in time. The preferred
>>     length would be 3 days.
>>     >
>>     > The meeting log from Monday can be found here:
>>     http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-08-15-17.00.log.html
>>     >
>>     > Please share your thoughts and questions with the summary
>>     above. Also please feel free to complement if I missed anything.
>>     >
>>     > Thanks and Best Regards,
>>     > Ildikó
>>     >
>>     >> On 15 Aug 2016, at 17:42, Pančur, Matjaž
>>     <Matjaz.Pancur at fri.uni-lj.si
>>     <mailto:Matjaz.Pancur at fri.uni-lj.si>> wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >> Hi all,
>>     >>
>>     >> Just a reminder: Training guides team meeting will start in 80
>>     minutes on #openstack-meeting.
>>     >>
>>     >> On Agenda: updates for the training at the next OpenStack
>>     Summit
>>     (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-university-improvements)
>>     >>
>>     >> -Matjaz
>>
>>
>
>
>
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