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On 04/10/2015 11:04 AM, Ying Chun Guo wrote:
> Here are my thoughts.
>
> 1. I would like the toolchain could be extendable for the future
> improvement.
> If we are able to make small and easy improvements before publishing,
> like handling double stars and double colons (described in [1]), let's
> do that.
> In the future, let's continue the improvement. The goal is to provide an
> easily understandable source strings for translators.

I don't have a good idea how to convert transformations back like stars 
and double colons. If anybody comes up with commands on how to do it, 
I'll happily integrate them into the toolchain.

> 2. I would like the translators to be well educated about the RST markups.
> I will covert [2] into translators' view.
> ( I don't think translators would read through this long document to
> pick out RST markups. )
> Clearly list RST markups, give samples, and describe the meanings.
> Thus the translators could easily understand which words and punctuation
> characters
> should not be translated and need to keep them unchanged carefully.

There are already quite a few tutorials on RST, perhaps it's better to 
reference these instead of writing a new one?


> 3. Next Thursday, I will have the team meeting with the translators. I will
> collect their feedback to these RST markups.
>
> @ Andreas and Anne, let me know your feeling tho these thoughts.

Andreas

>
> Daisy
>
> [1]
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2015-April/001030.html
> [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Markup_conventions
>
> Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse.com> wrote on 2015/04/10 12:38:21:
>
>  > From: Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse.com>
>  > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM at IBMCN
>  > Cc: "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org" <openstack-
>  > i18n at lists.openstack.org>, "openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org"
>  > <openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org>
>  > Date: 2015/04/10 12:38
>  > Subject: Re: [OpenStack-docs] [Openstack-i18n] Status of the RST
>  > Documentation Toolchain
>  >
>  > On 04/09/2015 02:16 PM, Ying Chun Guo wrote:
>  > > [...]
>  > > I investigated the translation process of RST document, asked by Anne
>  > > and Andreas.
>  > > While I made test, I used playground-user-guide, which was a quite new
>  > > document.
>  > > I didn't pay attention to the pot content changes between the old
>  > > version and the new version.
>  > > I'm quite sorry for that.
>  > > I don't want to block anything.
>  > > In my mind, the toolchain could be improved continuously,
>  > > both before publication and after publication.
>  >
>  > With the analysis done by Daisy [1] (thanks!) and my scripted updates to
>  > convert automatically what was possible [2] thus raising the number of
>  > translated strings for Japanese on the User Guides from 32 % to 37 %,
>  > and my patch for building the Japanese tools we have IMHO done
>  > everything we can do.
>  >
>  > Or has anybody suggestions for additional things to do now?
>  >
>  > If not, I think we're good to publish the new RST User Guides.
>  >
>  > So, I propose these next steps:
>  > * Get explicit ok by Daisy that we can continue based on her findings
>  > * Review and merge patch [3]
>  > * Anne decides when to publish User Guides
>  >
>  > Andreas
>  >
>  > [1]
>  >
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2015-April/001030.html
>  > [2]
>  >
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2015-April/001034.html
>  > [3] https://review.openstack.org/162424
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>


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  Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi
   SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
    GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Jennifer Guild, Dilip Upmanyu,
        Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
     GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F  FED1 389A 563C C272 A126