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I completely agree, Colin, and I appreciate your clarification here.  I 
just wanted to make sure that everyone was on the same page as to what 
"this is copyrighted material" really means in this case. :)

----  Nick

On 1/14/2014 6:42 PM, Colin McNamara wrote:
> Technically Copyright is the right to dictate who makes copies of your
> works, and under what conditions.
> For example, the Copyright holder has the right to license content/code
> under the Apache2.0 license so that it can be consumed under the very
> permissive, but specific use cases dictated under the license.
>
> For example (per my understanding.. I am not a lawyer, but have
> OpenSourced for pay products in the past) if someone distributed
> Apache2.0 licensed code without attribution, then the original copyright
> holder would have the ability to file suit against the infringer and
> recover damages.
>
> That ability to recover damages if the code is used outside of the
> limits of Apache2.0 is something that lawyers love, and allows the
> corporate world to release code.
>
> As for the Aptira example, I was using them as an example of how
> Copyrighted materials, that were providing material value to to a
> company were released under the Apache2.0 license to the OpenStack
> community, and had a huge impact to me personally, and I believe
> eventually the world. I cannot speak for Tristan and others. But in my
> own experience, keeping lawyers happy is key to successfully releasing
> code in a meaningful way.
>
> Regards,
>
> Colin
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> On Jan 14, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Nicholas Chase <nchase at mirantis.com
> <mailto:nchase at mirantis.com>> wrote:
>
>> Well, the whole point of this is that the docs are open source docs;
>> they are licensed in such a way that anyone, anywhere, should be able
>> to do whatever they want with proper attribution and subsequent
>> licensure.  Fair use/asking for approval doesn't enter into it, as far
>> as I understand.
>>
>> ----  Nick
>>
>> On 1/14/2014 2:54 PM, Nermina Miller wrote:
>>> Hence my questions :) How DO you deal with such requests?
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Rich Bowen <rbowen at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:rbowen at redhat.com>
>>> <mailto:rbowen at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01/14/2014 02:41 PM, Nermina Miller wrote:
>>>>> When I worked on manuals for an international association, I used to
>>>>> check the copyright policy of each company whose material we used for
>>>>> support. They varied. In some cases, you could paraphrase, in some
>>>>> only quote. They also had specific notes you were required to use
>>>>> whether in text, footnote, or reference list. So, there are some
>>>>> specifics that are important to state for those who want to write
>>>>> tutorials, blog posts, and larger bodies of work.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely, but I presume that none of those products were Open
>>>> Source. That changes the game.
>>>>
>>>> We're not a software company. We're an Open Source project.
>>>>
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