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On 10/07/13 15:43, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> On 07/10/2013 04:53 AM, Lorin Hochstein wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org
>> <mailto:tom at openstack.org>> wrote:
>>
>>      On 10/07/13 12:20, Lorin Hochstein wrote:
>>
>>          On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org
>>          <mailto:tom at openstack.org>
>>          <mailto:tom at openstack.org <mailto:tom at openstack.org>>> wrote:
>>
>>              On 10/07/13 00:48, Steve Gordon wrote:
>>
>>                  My understanding is that at least RPM/DEB packages are
>>          likely to
>>                  be available *very* shortly after the actual release for
>>          Havana.
>>
>>
>>              I'll take a bullish line, which may not necessarily be
>>          achievable:
>>
>>              """
>>              On the day that the press release for Havana is sent out, we
>>          need
>>              -by hook or by crook!- to have installation instructions for
>>          RHEL
>>              and Ubuntu, and ideally SUSE and Debian too.
>>              """
>>
>>              I'm thinking: "if you can't install the software, then it's not
>>              really a release, is it?". Release day is our time to shine :)
>>
>>              So, feasibility/sanity check:
>>              * This is unlikely to be provided in time by our friends at
>>          RH or
>>              Canonical, leaving:
>>              Option 1: Delay the press release
>>              Option 2: DIY
>>
>>              Personally, I think Option 1 would be terrible for the
>>          community's
>>              "feelings", and tying OpenStack to particular product
>>          offerings is
>>              not something we should probably be doing :)
>>
>>              So, for me, that leaves Option 2 :)
>>
>>              but, it's early in the morning .... are there other
>>          alternatives?
>>
>>
>>
>>          Tom:
>>
>>          Just to be explicit here, I can imagine three scenarios for
>>          "release day"
>>
>>          1. Downstream packages haven't been released yet  :(
>>          2. Downstream packages have been released, but there are no
>>          accompanying
>>          install docs   :|
>>          3. Downstream packages and accompanying install docs have been
>>          released  :)
>>
>>          For "DIY", are you talking about scenario #1 or scenario #2 (or
>>          both?).
>>
>>          Steve alluded to scenario 1 being unlikely, but we should
>>          probably talk
>>          to the distros to see how they plan to align their release
>>          packages to
>>          the official OpenStack release.
>>
>>
>>      Yup, I think in practice #2 is what happens, and that was the one I
>>      was referring to :)
>>
>>      Regards,
>>
>>      Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, I grudgingly admit that we probably need to write install docs *at
>> least* for Ubuntu, since I think it's unlikely that Canonical will
>> produce install docs for Havana by release day.
>>
>> (Side question: Does Canonical maintain their own install docs for
>> Grizzly? They have an impressive-looking OpenStack page, but I don't see
>> install docs linked on it
>> anywhere: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private-cloud/openstack).
>>
>> For RedHat (and SUSE), I think we should contact their doc maintainers
>> and ask them if they'll have updated release docs ready on the same day
>> that their packages are ready. No sense duplicating effort if they'll be
>> ready quickly enough. If they won't be ready, we should *sigh* also
>> probably do an RPM-based install guide. Perhaps I'm naively optimistic,
>> but I'm hoping that these distros will be ready quickly with docs since
>> they have a strong incentive to reduce deployment effort.
>
> For SUSE, we should have packages ready but documentation will take far
> longer. But I'm willing to help with SUSE adaptions inside OpenStack
> manuals,

That would be amazing Andreas!!!

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