<div dir="ltr"><div id="gmail-magicdomid17" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-omaz122zz73zz87zemz80zuz72zz88zmz89zz81zw" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:3px 0px 4px;background-color:rgb(253,253,252);color:rgb(34,34,34)">Hi,</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid19" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1677" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-omaz122zz73zz87zemz80zuz72zz88zmz89zz81zw" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:3px 0px 4px;background-color:rgb(253,253,252);color:rgb(34,34,34)">We had a discussion in the last cinder meeting regarding making EM branches EOL for the cinder project[1].</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid548" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-omaz122zz73zz87zemz80zuz72zz88zmz89zz81zw" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:3px 0px 4px;background-color:rgb(253,253,252);color:rgb(34,34,34)">The discussion started because of the CVE fixes where we backported to active stable branches i.e. Yoga, Zed and 2023.1</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid548" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-omaz122zz73zz87zemz80zuz72zz88zmz89zz81zw" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:3px 0px 4px;background-color:rgb(253,253,252);color:rgb(34,34,34)">but </span><span style="background-color:rgb(253,253,252);color:rgb(34,34,34)">there were no backports to further EM stable branches like Xena, Wallaby ... all the way to Train.</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid811" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-omaz122zz73zz87zemz80zuz72zz88zmz89zz81zw" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:3px 0px 4px;background-color:rgb(253,253,252);color:rgb(34,34,34)">Cinder team doesn't see much merit in keeping these EM stable branches alive since there is rarely any activity that requires</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1023" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-omaz122zz73zz87zemz80zuz72zz88zmz89zz81zw" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:3px 0px 4px;background-color:rgb(253,253,252);color:rgb(34,34,34)">collaboration and if there is, it is usually by the core cinder team. Following are some of our reasons to EOL these branches:</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1023" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-omaz122zz73zz87zemz80zuz72zz88zmz89zz81zw" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:3px 0px 4px;background-color:rgb(253,253,252);color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1050" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-omaz122zz73zz87zemz80zuz72zz88zmz89zz81zw" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:3px 0px 4px;background-color:rgb(253,253,252);color:rgb(34,34,34)">1) We have less review bandwidth even for active stable branches (Yoga, Zed and 2023.1)</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1058" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-omaz122zz73zz87zemz80zuz72zz88zmz89zz81zw" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:3px 0px 4px;background-color:rgb(253,253,252);color:rgb(34,34,34)">2) No one, apart from the project team, does backport of critical fixes implying that those branches aren't used much for collaboration</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1062" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-omaz122zz73zz87zemz80zuz72zz88zmz89zz81zw" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:3px 0px 4px;background-color:rgb(253,253,252);color:rgb(34,34,34)">3) Will save gate resources for some periodic jobs and the patches proposed</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1036" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-omaz122zz73zz87zemz80z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