<div>                IIRC the plan is to switch to Quorum Queues: https://blog.rabbitmq.com/posts/2020/04/rabbitmq-gets-an-ha-upgrade/<br><br>I'm an operator; hopefully the devs can tell us more about these plans.<br>            </div>            <div class="yahoo_quoted" style="margin:10px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ccc;padding-left:1ex;">                        <div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">                                <div>                    On Friday, February 10, 2023, 11:54:15 AM EST, Satish Patel <satish.txt@gmail.com> wrote:                </div>                <div><br></div>                <div><br></div>                <div><div id="yiv7377292069"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I went through that doc because it always shows up first in google search :) </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>My question was why the kolla default doesn't come with HA policies?  I can surely add policy by myself and adjust requirements. I have also noticed without HA if any node fails then cause strange behavior in the entire cluster because of missing queues/data etc. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Personally I hate HA because the majority of messages are stateless. In my experience HA is a little stable when it comes down to node failure but with performance big no. </div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div id="yiv7377292069yqt15095" class="yiv7377292069yqt4649990435"><div class="yiv7377292069gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv7377292069gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 11:15 AM Albert Braden <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ozzzo@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ozzzo@yahoo.com">ozzzo@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv7377292069gmail_quote"><div>                This has been discussed at great length; here are a couple of links that lead to interesting threads:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-November/026074.html">https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-November/026074.html</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016362.html">https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016362.html</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">There used to be a useful document here:<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Large_Scale_Configuration_Rabbit">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Large_Scale_Configuration_Rabbit</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">That link now points to the “Large Scale SIG” home page. Does anyone know where the useful RMQ document is? I assume that it is buried somewhere under “Large Scale Journey.”<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The bottom line is that, by default, kolla-ansible enables replication but not durable-queues, which is an unstable configuration. I believe that this may have been fixed in a newer version; we are on Train.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016524.html">https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016524.html</a><br clear="none">            </div>            <div style="margin:10px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">                        <div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42);">                                <div>                    On Thursday, February 9, 2023, 10:48:11 PM EST, Satish Patel <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:satish.txt@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:satish.txt@gmail.com">satish.txt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:                </div>                <div><br clear="none"></div>                <div><br clear="none"></div>                <div><div id="yiv7377292069m_-6371803536149402834yiv6626050626"><div dir="ltr">Folks,<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I have deployed 3 node kolla controllers and notice rabbitMQ doesn't have any HA policy for queues. when i rebooted one of the nodes and found some messages got lost. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Any reason kolla doesn't use HA policies by default? </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>If i want to add policies then where should i specify them or any doc you can point me to define policies.  </div></div></div></div>            </div>                </div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div>            </div>                </di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