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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Thanks everyone for the responses, based on them I've proposed a
patch [1] that moves the cycle highlights task from R-5 week to
R-4 week.</p>
<p>[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/855682">https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/855682</a></p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
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<p>Előd</p>
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">I can jump in from a
release marketing perspective. I think that we have some
flexibility while still ensuring we have a cohesive plan
for October 5. It would be great if cycle highlights can
start rolling in now so we can review them incrementally,
but I think we can give teams until the end of next week
(September 9) or even early the following week (September
13 at the latest) and still meet all of our deadlines.
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<div>That said, the September 14 deadline would ideally be
a hard deadline, so I would like to not push it past
that. If we think that makes more sense from a release
perspective, we can make it work from a marketing one. </div>
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<div>Thanks Allison for replying by clarifying your needs, it
helps a lot.</div>
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<div>Honestly, I wasn't asking for a two-week delay (matching
with RC1), I was just pointing out the difficulties to
provide a release document as the exact same time we were
rushing into the feature deadline.</div>
<div>To be clear, shall we accept to punt by one week the
cycle highlights delivery deadline, I'd be more than happy
with it as personnally I'd target my duty to be done this
Monday.</div>
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<div>Let me know if that helps. </div>
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<div>I share the same concern as Sylvain. In
cinder, we have provided an extension of 1
week after the FF to features so we are really</div>
<div>not sure which changes are going to get in.
I can prepare the highlights with the features
we already have merged but that won't</div>
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2022 at 7:56 PM Előd Illés <<a href="mailto:elod.illes@est.tech" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">elod.illes@est.tech</a>>
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<p>I think the deadline is more like
something to connected to Feature Freeze.
~After Feature Freeze we know what's in
the cycle. If a project requests a Feature
Freeze Exception, then of course, the FF
will happen somewhere between official FF
date (Milestone 3) and RC1, and hopefully
closer to Milestone 3 date than RC1 date.</p>
<p>I understand that PTLs are busy with
reviewing the last feature patches, but I
think this is more like a best effort,
too, to prepare it as soon as possible,
after the Feature Freeze.</p>
<p>I don't know when exactly the Marketing
team is processing the cycle highlights,
but I guess they also handles these a bit
flexible way. Probably to generally state
that highlights are only needed by RC1
would give them much less time, more
postponed / missing docs handling / more
hurry. So while I think we have a bit of a
flexibility with the deadline (1-2 working
days don't really count), the best is to
try to prepare it as soon as possible.
Anyone from the Marketing team or from
Release team, correct me if i'm wrong.<br>
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<pre>Hi,
This is a reminder, that *this week* is the week for Cycle highlights
[1][2]! They need to be added to deliverable yamls so that they can be
included in release marketing preparations. (See the details about how
to add them at the project team guide [3].)
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<div>I'm confused. If I read correctly
[3] it says that cycle highlights
can be delivered at RC1 which makes
sense to me as it's
post-FeatureFreeze.</div>
<div>Asking for cycle highlights the
week of the FeatureFreeze is both
counterproductive and non-logic :
While some changes are still on
debate and while we're not yet done
with merging features, we need to
write a document saying what we'll
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<div>Couldn't we officially accept the
projects to provide their highlights
only at RC1 ? Is it a marketing
problem because RC1 is closer to the
GA ?<br>
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<pre>[1] <a href="https://releases.openstack.org/zed/schedule.html" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://releases.openstack.org/zed/schedule.html</a>
[2] <a href="https://releases.openstack.org/zed/schedule.html#z-cycle-highlights" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://releases.openstack.org/zed/schedule.html#z-cycle-highlights</a>
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<a href="https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#cycle-highlights" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#cycle-highlights</a>
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