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On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 4:32 PM James Slagle <james.slagle at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 1:18 PM Dmitriy Rabotyagov
> <noonedeadpunk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ronelle,
> >
> > It's actually not what was discussed and decided.
> >
> > After Zed, means starting from Antelope, which is the release after Zed.
> > Zed release should still be able to accept patches and interested
> parties are allowed to contribute to the branch until it goes to the
> Extended Maintenance according to the release schedule [1].
> >
> > So there can be no active contributions to the Zed release, but CI or
> gating should not be dropped on purpose to prevent any interested party on
> contribute to the branch.
>
> I feel the wording  "on purpose to prevent..." is a
> mis-characterization of the intent.
>
> The discussion resulted in no volunteers or contributors willing to
> maintain TripleO Zed. The outcome was to consider it 'supported
> but no maintainers'[1]. Now, I can't really describe how that works in
> actual practice. Who is supporting it if there are no maintainers? Are
> there a group of individuals somewhere that consider themselves the
> supporters of TripleO Zed, but not the maintainers? To the best of my
> knowledge, no, there is not.
>
> To be clear, this patch
> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-ci/+/882759 is for zed
> jobs on branchless CI repos. As there are no maintainers for Zed,  if
> they start failing, we will need to mark them non-voting if we don't
> remove them. The intent with removing them was to signal the reality
> of the situation with what is actually still being maintained. And by
> maintained, I mean people actually working on it.
>
> If you would instead prefer that those jobs continue to exist, then
> ok. I don't understand the status of them at this time, and I don't
> expect them to stay passing (if they are). I also disagree that the
> absence of those jobs prevents anyone from submitting a patch to
> TripleO Zed.
>
> The integration lines promoted through RDO results in repositories of
> rpm's. When those are torn down (via the rdoproject.org patches), the
> content will still exist, but it will not be updated in a way that
> TripleO typically expects. The CI and gate jobs that run on TripleO
> patches proposed to stable/zed of branched TripleO repos may or may
> not continue to pass as a result of stale content.
>
> [1]
> https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-March/032663.html


James, thanks for the fuller explanation.

As we understand, removing CI branchful jobs should not prevent anyone
committing patches to the stable/zed branch.
We did not even remove any testing from TripleO related repos that have a
stable/zed branch  - for example:
https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/stable/zed/zuul.d/layout.yaml
stil has templates included.

What we are proposing to remove is just forcing stable/zed branch testing
on changes to CI repos - which are branchless.


>
>
> >
> > [1] https://releases.openstack.org/
> >
> >
> > вт, 16 мая 2023 г., 12:53 Ronelle Landy <rlandy at redhat.com>:
> >>
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> Removal of TripleO Zed Integration and Component Lines
> >>
> >> Per the decision to not maintain TripleO after the Zed release [1], the
> Zed integration and component lines are being removed in the following
> patches:
> >>
> >>     https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/config/+/48073
> >>
> >>     https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/config/+/48074
> >>
> >>     https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/48075
> >>
> >> To be clear, please note that following these changes, the gate for
> stable/zed TripleO repos will no longer be updated or maintained. Per the
> earlier communications, there should be no more patches submitted for
> stable/zed TripleO repos, and any backports will go to stable/wallaby or
> stable/train.
> >>
> >> The last promoted release of Zed through TripleO is:
> >> https://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos9-zed/current-tripleo/delorean.repo
> (hash:61828177e94d5f179ee0885cf3eee102),
> >> which was promoted on 05/15/2023.
> >>
> >> The Ceph promotion lines related to Zed are also removed in the above
> patches.
> >>
> >> Check/gate testing for the master branch is in process of being removed
> as well (https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-ci/+/882759).
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/878799
>
>
>
> --
> -- James Slagle
> --
>
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