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 ---- On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 00:09:51 -0700  Takashi Kajinami  wrote --- 
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 > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 3:51 PM Sean Mooney smooney at redhat.com> wrote:
 > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:42 AM Takashi Kajinami tkajinam at redhat.com> wrote:
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 > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:28 AM Ghanshyam Mann gmann at ghanshyammann.com> wrote:
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 > >>  ---- On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 02:01:38 -0700  Slawek Kaplonski  wrote ---
 > >>  > Hi,
 > >>  >
 > >>  > Dnia wtorek, 11 kwietnia 2023 10:49:44 CEST Takashi Kajinami pisze:
 > >>  > > This probably causes a bit wider effect than just retiring the winstackers
 > >>  > > project.
 > >>  > >
 > >>  > > I see some projects (cinde, designate, glance and os-brick) depend on
 > >>  > > os-win which is under
 > >>  > > governance of winstackers and will be retired. Also, even some more
 > >>  > > projects (Neutron, os-vif,
 > >>  > > ovsdbapp, oslo.log, etc) supports windows without os-win.
 > >>  > >
 > >>  > > If we retire Winstackers, then is it reasonable to remove all
 > >>  > > implementations to support Windows ?
 > >>  >
 > >>  > That's very good question IMO. And, from Neutron perspective very important according to the removal of netifaces dependency - it would be much easier to remove it by removing all "windows" module from Neutron repo rather than refactoring it.
 > >>
 > >> I agree. Thanks, Takashi for raising it.
 > >>
 > >> If we retire Winstackers then yes, it means all dependencies of any functionality (user-facing or internal)
 > >> need to be removed also. This is not a good situation for us as window support of OpenStack, if I am
 > >> not wrong, Cloudbase is the only company maintaining and supporting the window support since starting.
 > >> If there is any company having their customer based on windows then this is the right time to step up and help
 > >> in maintaining this project. Otherway (based on project wants and have the bandwidth) is to implement the
 > >> alternate way in projects for window support (the one you mentioned has window support ).
 > >>
 > > Please correct me if I'm wrong but what cloudbase has been maintaining is support for windows guest
 > > instead of windows host.
 > that is incorrect cloudbase provide the third party ci that test
 > deploying openstack compute nodes on windows.
 > that is the in/out of tree hyperV virt driver and the ovs on windows
 > supprot used with os-vif and neuton ml2/ovs plugsins on windows.
 > 
 > Thanks.
 > I was confused by some conversation logs in #openstack-tc and it was indeedmentioned cloudbase no longer maintains Winstackers (= Windows host support)earlier in this thread.
 > 
 > while we are happy to review fixes for hyper v /windows hows we now no
 > longer have any way to test these changes in ci ro locally as we
 > don't have a maintained way to deploy devstack on hyper v/windows hosts.
 > 
 > out side fo the cloud base init package which is optional there is no
 > depency on cloudbase to support windows guest.
 > that is unaffected. but windows host support is now effectivly
 > unmainated and untested.
 > 
 > I completely agree with this statement.

Yes. AFAIK, it was only Cloudbase who maintained code as well as 3rd party CI for Nova HyperV
driver. 

-gmann

 > 
 > > My previous question was about Windows host support (whether we can remove
 > > all implementations to run OpenStack services in windows hosts, instead of linux hosts) and guest support
 > > can be kept now.
 > >
 > >>
 > >> -gmann
 > >>
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 > >>  > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 6:29 AM Ghanshyam Mann gmann at ghanshyammann.com>
 > >>  > > wrote:
 > >>  > >
 > >>  > > > Thanks, Lucian, for the updates and email link.
 > >>  > > >
 > >>  > > > As the next step, we will discuss it in TC and take the next action.
 > >>  > > >
 > >>  > > > -gmann
 > >>  > > >
 > >>  > > >  ---- On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 00:11:38 -0700  Lucian Petrut  wrote ---
 > >>  > > >  > Hi,
 > >>  > > >  > Thanks for reaching out. As mentioned here [1], Cloudbase Solutions can
 > >>  > > > no longer lead the Winstackers project. Since there weren’t any other
 > >>  > > > interested parties, I think there’s no other option but to retire the
 > >>  > > > project.
 > >>  > > >  > [1]
 > >>  > > > https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-November/031044.html
 > >>  > > >  > Regards,Lucian Petrut
 > >>  > > >  >
 > >>  > > >  > On 22 Mar 2023, at 19:43, Ghanshyam Mann gmann at ghanshyammann.com>
 > >>  > > > wrote:
 > >>  > > >  > Hi Lukas,
 > >>  > > >  >
 > >>  > > >  > I am reaching out to you as you were PTL for OpenStack Winstackers
 > >>  > > > project in the last cycle.
 > >>  > > >  >
 > >>  > > >  > There is no PTL candidate for the next cycle (2023.2), and it is on the
 > >>  > > > leaderless project list. Please
 > >>  > > >  > check if you or anyone you know would like to lead this project.
 > >>  > > >  >
 > >>  > > >  > - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2023.2-leaderless
 > >>  > > >  >
 > >>  > > >  > Also, if anyone else would like to help leading this project, this is
 > >>  > > > time to let TC knows.
 > >>  > > >  >
 > >>  > > >  > -gmann
 > >>  > > >  >
 > >>  > > >  >
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 > >>  >
 > >>  > --
 > >>  > Slawek Kaplonski
 > >>  > Principal Software Engineer
 > >>  > Red Hat
 > >>
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