[PTL][release] Zed Cycle Highlights
Sylvain Bauza
sbauza at redhat.com
Thu Sep 1 19:52:59 UTC 2022
Le jeu. 1 sept. 2022 à 18:02, Allison Price <allison at openinfra.dev> a
écrit :
> I can jump in from a release marketing perspective. I think that we have
> some flexibility while still ensuring we have a cohesive plan for October
> 5. It would be great if cycle highlights can start rolling in now so we can
> review them incrementally, but I think we can give teams until the end of
> next week (September 9) or even early the following week (September 13 at
> the latest) and still meet all of our deadlines.
>
> That said, the September 14 deadline would ideally be a hard deadline, so
> I would like to not push it past that. If we think that makes more sense
> from a release perspective, we can make it work from a marketing one.
>
>
Thanks Allison for replying by clarifying your needs, it helps a lot.
Honestly, I wasn't asking for a two-week delay (matching with RC1), I was
just pointing out the difficulties to provide a release document as the
exact same time we were rushing into the feature deadline.
To be clear, shall we accept to punt by one week the cycle highlights
delivery deadline, I'd be more than happy with it as personnally I'd target
my duty to be done this Monday.
-Sylvain
> Let me know if that helps.
>
> Thanks,
> Allison
>
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:38 AM, Rajat Dhasmana <rdhasman at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Elod,
>
> I share the same concern as Sylvain. In cinder, we have provided an
> extension of 1 week after the FF to features so we are really
> not sure which changes are going to get in. I can prepare the highlights
> with the features we already have merged but that won't
> include the whole list.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 7:56 PM Előd Illés <elod.illes at est.tech> wrote:
>
>> I think the deadline is more like something to connected to Feature
>> Freeze. ~After Feature Freeze we know what's in the cycle. If a project
>> requests a Feature Freeze Exception, then of course, the FF will happen
>> somewhere between official FF date (Milestone 3) and RC1, and hopefully
>> closer to Milestone 3 date than RC1 date.
>>
>> I understand that PTLs are busy with reviewing the last feature patches,
>> but I think this is more like a best effort, too, to prepare it as soon as
>> possible, after the Feature Freeze.
>>
>> I don't know when exactly the Marketing team is processing the cycle
>> highlights, but I guess they also handles these a bit flexible way.
>> Probably to generally state that highlights are only needed by RC1 would
>> give them much less time, more postponed / missing docs handling / more
>> hurry. So while I think we have a bit of a flexibility with the deadline
>> (1-2 working days don't really count), the best is to try to prepare it as
>> soon as possible. Anyone from the Marketing team or from Release team,
>> correct me if i'm wrong.
>>
>> Előd
>>
>> On 2022. 09. 01. 15:54, Sylvain Bauza wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Le mar. 30 août 2022 à 17:45, Előd Illés <elod.illes at est.tech>
>> <elod.illes at est.tech> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is a reminder, that *this week* is the week for Cycle highlights
>>> [1][2]! They need to be added to deliverable yamls so that they can be
>>> included in release marketing preparations. (See the details about how
>>> to add them at the project team guide [3].)
>>>
>>>
>> I'm confused. If I read correctly [3] it says that cycle highlights can
>> be delivered at RC1 which makes sense to me as it's post-FeatureFreeze.
>> Asking for cycle highlights the week of the FeatureFreeze is both
>> counterproductive and non-logic : While some changes are still on debate
>> and while we're not yet done with merging features, we need to write a
>> document saying what we'll get.
>>
>> Couldn't we officially accept the projects to provide their highlights
>> only at RC1 ? Is it a marketing problem because RC1 is closer to the GA ?
>> -Sylvain
>>
>>
>>
>>> [1] https://releases.openstack.org/zed/schedule.html
>>> [2] https://releases.openstack.org/zed/schedule.html#z-cycle-highlights
>>> [3] https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#cycle-highlights
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Előd Illés
>>> irc: elodilles
>>>
>>>
>
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