OpenStack still promoting non-free platforms (was: [all][tc] Change OpenStack release naming policy proposal)

Ghanshyam Mann gmann at ghanshyammann.com
Mon May 23 15:45:11 UTC 2022


 ---- On Mon, 23 May 2022 04:54:23 -0500 Sean Mooney <smooney at redhat.com> wrote ----
 > On Sat, 2022-05-21 at 17:33 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 > > On 5/21/22 06:07, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
 > > >   ---- On Fri, 20 May 2022 20:56:27 -0500 Erik McCormick <emccormick at cirrusseven.com> wrote ----
 > > >   >
 > > >   > On Fri, May 20, 2022, 7:03 PM Thomas Goirand <zigo at debian.org> wrote:
 > > >   > On 5/20/22 19:42, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
 > > >   > > * Joining info Join with Google Meet = meet.google.com/gwi-cphb-rya
 > > >   >
 > > >   > What would it take to make everyone switch to free software? We're
 > > >   > moving from one non-free platform (zoom) to another (google meet), even
 > > >   > if we have Jitsi that works very well... :/
 > > >   >
 > > >   > Jitsi degrades beyond 16 or so interactive users. I love it and wish it well, but it's just not there yet. If the situation has changed in recent months, great then let's take a look.
 > > > 
 > > > Yeah, we try to use that as our first preference but it did not work as expected. In a recent usage in RBAC discussion a few weeks ago,
 > > > many attendees complained about audio, joining issues or so. That is why we are using non-free tooling.
 > > > 
 > > > @zigo, If you have tried any free and stable platforms for video calls, please suggest and we will love
 > > > to use that.
 > > > 
 > > > -gmann
 > > 
 > > As I understand, the point isn't to make more than 16 persons talk in 
 > > the meeting. Let me know if I'm wrong.
 > > 
 > > In such case, a setup similar to Debconf (which used Jitsi for Debconf 
 > > 2020 and 2021) can be used. You get just a few people in the meeting, 
 > > and everyone else just listens to the broacast (ie: a regular online 
 > > video in your browser or VLC).
 > in general whe we have video meeting for thinkgs like rbac discussions we do want to allow most or all attendes to be able to talk so 
 > using vlc to have everyone else just listent would fail that requireemtn in general.
 > 
 > if it was  a presentation sure but for a meeting that would not really be useful

Yeah, these are more interactive meetings than presentation style. If anyone attending the
the meeting I expect they will participate in the discussion sometimes or at least can/should
be able to make comments when things are related to their projects/area or so.

-gmann

 > > 
 > > The full setup is well documented [1], and we have free software ansible 
 > > scripts [2]. This allows thousands of attendees, plus recording and 
 > > reviewing of the videos.
 > > 
 > > I very much would love if there was some efforts put in this direction 
 > > (or some similar setup, as long as it's fully free).
 > > 
 > > Hoping this helps,
 > > Cheers,
 > > 
 > > Thomas Goirand (zigo)
 > > 
 > > [1] https://video.debconf.org
 > > [2] https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-video-team
 > > 
 > 
 > 
 > 



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