OpenStack still promoting non-free platforms (was: [all][tc] Change OpenStack release naming policy proposal)

Sean Mooney smooney at redhat.com
Mon May 23 09:54:23 UTC 2022


On Sat, 2022-05-21 at 17:33 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 5/21/22 06:07, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
> >   ---- On Fri, 20 May 2022 20:56:27 -0500 Erik McCormick <emccormick at cirrusseven.com> wrote ----
> >   >
> >   > On Fri, May 20, 2022, 7:03 PM Thomas Goirand <zigo at debian.org> wrote:
> >   > On 5/20/22 19:42, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
> >   > > * Joining info Join with Google Meet = meet.google.com/gwi-cphb-rya
> >   >
> >   > What would it take to make everyone switch to free software? We're
> >   > moving from one non-free platform (zoom) to another (google meet), even
> >   > if we have Jitsi that works very well... :/
> >   >
> >   > Jitsi degrades beyond 16 or so interactive users. I love it and wish it well, but it's just not there yet. If the situation has changed in recent months, great then let's take a look.
> > 
> > Yeah, we try to use that as our first preference but it did not work as expected. In a recent usage in RBAC discussion a few weeks ago,
> > many attendees complained about audio, joining issues or so. That is why we are using non-free tooling.
> > 
> > @zigo, If you have tried any free and stable platforms for video calls, please suggest and we will love
> > to use that.
> > 
> > -gmann
> 
> As I understand, the point isn't to make more than 16 persons talk in 
> the meeting. Let me know if I'm wrong.
> 
> In such case, a setup similar to Debconf (which used Jitsi for Debconf 
> 2020 and 2021) can be used. You get just a few people in the meeting, 
> and everyone else just listens to the broacast (ie: a regular online 
> video in your browser or VLC).
in general whe we have video meeting for thinkgs like rbac discussions we do want to allow most or all attendes to be able to talk so 
using vlc to have everyone else just listent would fail that requireemtn in general.

if it was  a presentation sure but for a meeting that would not really be useful
> 
> The full setup is well documented [1], and we have free software ansible 
> scripts [2]. This allows thousands of attendees, plus recording and 
> reviewing of the videos.
> 
> I very much would love if there was some efforts put in this direction 
> (or some similar setup, as long as it's fully free).
> 
> Hoping this helps,
> Cheers,
> 
> Thomas Goirand (zigo)
> 
> [1] https://video.debconf.org
> [2] https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-video-team
> 




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