Can neutron-fwaas project be revived?
gmann at ghanshyammann.com
Fri Jan 28 19:08:44 UTC 2022
---- On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:59:28 -0600 Lajos Katona <katonalala at gmail.com> wrote ----
> Hi,Today Neutron drivers team again discussed the topic of the maintenance of neutron-fwaas.
> The team agreed to include neutron-fwaas again to Neutron stadium, with the maintenance of Inspur and the guidance of Neutron core team, and with +2 rights to Inspur developers.
> The logs of the meeting:https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2022/neutron_drivers.2022-01-28-14.00.log.html#l-14
> The process for Stadium projects:https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/stadium/governance.html
> Thanks for stepping in to maintaining and developing neutron-fwaas.
Thanks lajoskatona, neutron team for reconsidering it.
@ Inspur team,
Plese propose the revert of deprecation of neutron-fwaas in governance. and after that we can
setup the project-config, jobs things there.
> RegardsLajos Katona (lajoskatona)
> Lajos Katona <katonalala at gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. jan. 20., Cs, 10:07):
> Hi,Neutron team is open to include projects to the stadium group (that was the feeling during the meeting also when we discussed this topic) if there is a stable maintainer team behind the project.So as you mentioned it would be easier to avoid the back and forth movement of fwaas if possible.
> Ghanshyam Mann <gmann at ghanshyammann.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. jan. 19., Sze, 15:02):
> ---- On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 02:23:39 -0600 Lajos Katona <katonalala at gmail.com> wrote ----
> > Hi,
> > Thanks for the advice.
> > The intention from the Neutron team was to make it clear that the team currently has no capacity to help the maintenance of neutron-fwaas, and can't help to maintain it.If there's easier ways for volunteers to keep it maintained other than forking it to x/ namespace that would be really helpful.
> Thanks Lajos,
> Main point here is if it is maintained by current maintainer (inspur team or other developers) whether neutron team will consider that
> to be in added in neutron stadium?
> If yes, then it will be extra work to move to x/ namespace now and then bring back to openstack/.
> If no, then moving to x/ namespace is good option or if maintainer want to be in openstack then we can discuss about
> a separate new project (but that needs more discussion on host much cost it adds).
> > Lajos Katona (lajoskatona)
> > Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. jan. 18., K, 18:58):
> > On 2022-01-18 10:49:48 -0600 (-0600), Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
> > [...]
> > > As discussed in project-config change, you or neutron folks can
> > > propose the retirement now itself (considering there is no one to
> > > maintain/release stable/victoria for new bug fixes) and TC will
> > > merge it as per process. After that, creating it in x/ namespace
> > > will be good to do.
> > [...]
> > Looking at this from a logistical perspective, it's a fair amount of
> > churn in code hosting as well as unwelcoming to the new volunteers,
> > compared to just leaving the repository where it is now and letting
> > them contribute to it there. If the concern is that the Neutron team
> > doesn't want to retain responsibility for it while they evaluate the
> > conviction of the new maintainers for eventual re-inclusion, then
> > the TC would be well within its rights to declare that the
> > repository can remain in place while not having it be part of the
> > Neutron team's responsibilities.
> > There are a number of possible solutions, ranging from making a new
> > category of provisional deliverable, to creating a lightweight
> > project team under the DPL model, to declaring it a pop-up team with
> > a TC-owned repository. There are repositories within the OpenStack
> > namespace which are not an official part of the OpenStack
> > coordinated release, after all. Solutions which don't involve having
> > the new work take place somewhere separate, and the work involved in
> > making that separate place, which will simply be closed down as
> > transient cruft if everything goes as desired.
> > --
> > Jeremy Stanley
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