[tc][mistral][release] Propose to deprecate Mistral

Oleg Ovcharuk vgvoleg at gmail.com
Thu Dec 8 09:22:43 UTC 2022


Hi everyone, I'm one of mistral core team members.
As was mentioned, mistral is also used by other companies (Netcracker).
As the community was kinda quiet, we were focused on our personal mistral
fork, also we had not enough human resources to keep it up with upstream.
But now things have changed - as you may notice by gerrit, we started to
push our bugfixes/improvements to upstream and we have a huge list to
complete.

It's an amazing coincidence that the topic about deprecating mistral was
started *after* two companies that are interested in mistral returned for
community work.
I'm also happy that someone is ready to take responsibility to perform PTL
stuff and we will help them as much as we can.
Let me know if you have any questions.

Best regards,
Oleg Ovcharuk

чт, 8 дек. 2022 г. в 11:46, Axel Vanzaghi <axel.vanzaghi at ovhcloud.com>:

> Hello,
>
>
> We (me and my employer) are really committing to do this work, it has been
> discussed and we agreed on this internally.
>
>
> Thing is, this project is currently vital for us so we will maintain it,
> either we do it with the community or not. We know it's a serious amount of
> work, more than if we keep it for us, but we think it would be better for
> everyone if we give back to the community.
>
>
> We also know we are not the only ones using it, someone has seen the
> discussion about its deprecation and us proposing to maintain it [1], and
> sent us a mail to tell us he has use cases, and even features and
> improvements. I'll ask him to stand up in this thread.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Axel
>
>
> [1] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/866562
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jay Faulkner <jay at gr-oss.io>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 7, 2022 5:06:14 PM
> *To:* Arnaud Morin
> *Cc:* Elõd Illés; openstack-discuss at lists.openstack.org
> *Subject:* Re: [tc][mistral][release] Propose to deprecate Mistral
>
> Maintaining an entire project, especially catching it up after it's been
> neglected, is a serious amount of work. Are you (and your employer)
> committing to do this work? Are there any other interested parties that
> could keep Mistral maintained if you were to move on? Just wanting to
> ensure we're going to have the project setup for long-term support, given
> we promise each release will be supported for years to come.
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 5:34 AM Arnaud Morin <arnaud.morin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> With Axel [1], we propose to maintain the Mistral development.
>>
>> This is new to us, so we will need help from the community but we really
>> want to be fully commited so mistral will continue beeing maintained
>> under openinfra.
>>
>> If you think we are too late for antelope, this can maybe happen for the
>> next release?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> [1]
>> https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-December/031417.html
>>
>> On 05.12.22 - 10:52, Elõd Illés wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Mistral projects are unfortunately not actively maintained and caused
>> hard times in latest official series releases for release management team.
>> Thus we discussed this and decided to propose to deprecate Mistral [1] to
>> avoid broken releases and last minute debugging of gate issues (which
>> usually fall to release management team), and remove mistral projects from
>> 2023.1 Antelope release [2].
>> >
>> > We would like to ask @TC to evaluate the situation and review our
>> patches (deprecation [1] + removal from the official release [2]).
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> >
>> > Előd Illés
>> > irc: elodilles @ #openstack-release
>> >
>> > [1] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/866562
>> > [2] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865577
>>
>>
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