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On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 9:22 PM Thomas Goirand <zigo at debian.org> wrote:

> Hi Gibi!
>
> Thanks for bringing this up.
>
> As a distro package maintainer, here's my view.
>
> On 9/22/21 2:11 PM, Balazs Gibizer wrote:
> > Option 1: Bump the major version of the decorator dependency on stable.
>
> Decorator 4.0.11 is even in Debian Stretch (currently oldoldstable), for
> which I don't even maintain OpenStack anymore (that's OpenStack
> Newton...). So I don't see how switching to decorator 4.0.0 is a
> problem, and I don't understand how OpenStack could be using 3.4.0 which
> is in Jessie (ie: 6 years old Debian release).
>
> PyPi says Decorator 3.4.0 is from 2012:
> https://pypi.org/project/decorator/#history
>
> Do you have your release numbers correct? If so, then switching to
> Decorator 4.4.2 (available in Debian Bullseye (shipped with Victoria)
> and Ubuntu >=Focal) looks like reasonable to me... Sticking with 3.4.0
> feels a bit crazy (and I wasn't aware of it).
>

Irrelevant now because there are several more packages affected, not just
Decorator.


>
> > Option 2: Pin the setuptools version during tox installation
>
> Please don't do this for the master branch, we need OpenStack to stay
> current with setuptools (yeah, even if this means breaking changes...).
>

Pretty sure no one has suggested pinning on master.

(And the subject of this email includes "stable", twice!)


>
> For already released OpenStack: I don't mind much if this is done (I
> could backport fixes if something breaks).
>

+1, I've posted this:
https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/810859


>
> > Option 3: turn off lower-constraints testing
>
> I already expressed myself about this: this is dangerous as distros rely
> on it for setting lower bounds as low as possible (which is always
> preferred from a distro point of view).
>

How does this option help for the specific problem in hand?  Namely:

- setuptools >=58.0.0 does not support use_2to3 option

- several packages that are pulled into OpenStack stable builds need
use_2to3.

(Not saying it doesn't; I'm just ignorant here and would appreciate further
explanation.)


>
> > Option 4: utilize pyproject.toml[6] to specify build-time requirements
>
> I don't know about pyproject.toml.
>
> Just my 2 cents, hoping it's useful,
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas Goirand (zigo)
>
>
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