[all] Dangerous trend toward too many release-independent components

Herve Beraud hberaud at redhat.com
Wed Sep 8 12:07:25 UTC 2021

Openstack enter more and more in maintenance mode, with decreasing staffs,
and reduced project activity which de facto lead us to this kind of
situation, so this is a rational proposition.
Automation and tooling is a big part of the solution to this problem.

Great, thanks for the future blue-print.

Do not hesitate to ping us either on IRC or by replying to this thread.

Le mer. 8 sept. 2021 à 13:28, Thomas Goirand <zigo at debian.org> a écrit :

> On 9/8/21 11:31 AM, Herve Beraud wrote:
> > An API seems quite a good idea
> >
> > I'm ok to give help on this point with my upstream cap and my Red Hat
> cap.
> >
> > As release manager I added your proposition to our "things to changes"
> > on our release process and tools.
> > I think that it should be discussed first to see how to implement it and
> > how to host it.
> > I think that the technical details would be a transversal decision
> > between the infra team and the release team and the volunteers on this
> > topic.
> >
> > However you should notice that we are near Xena's deadline, and, so, for
> > now, I don't think that we will have the time to work on this topic.
> > Also,  although I'm volunteering to help, you should notice that the
> > release team will have another PTL for Y, so, the lead of this topic is
> > at the discretion of my replacant.
> >
> > I think a good starting point could be to design some specs or propose
> > some related goals, so, Thomas, maybe you could start by creating
> > something like that with your expectations. It will allow us to start
> > this topic, share our different feedback and our expectations on it (our
> > different viewpoints, at least from the release team, infra team, and
> > downstream/distros teams).
> >
> > Hopefully it will help us.
> Hi Herve,
> Thanks a lot for your enthusiasm, volunteering, and all.
> I very much agree that it's too late for Xena, though I wasn't even
> hoping for it that early. This was merely a suggestion.
> I will try to get my co-maintainer (Michal Arbet) in the loop so we can
> at least design the blue-print together. I also have to give this some
> thoughts myself before I can start.
> Cheers,
> Thomas Goirand (zigo)

Hervé Beraud
Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat
irc: hberaud
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