threat to freenode (where openstack irc hangs out)

Dmitry Tantsur dtantsur at redhat.com
Wed May 26 11:15:21 UTC 2021


On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 8:44 AM Cédric Jeanneret <cjeanner at redhat.com>
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I think we shouldn't let this one die in silence. Apparently, new
> policies are being enforcing within Freenode and, if by mistake, a
> channel promotes another IRC network in their topic, they will be taken
> by freenode staff - meaning loss of rights, loss of ownership, and topic
> will be changed.
>

FYI #rdo fell victim to this and is now on Libera.

Dmitry


>
> that's not what we can call "foss supporting" anymore imho. (Though,
> apparently, this was due to some miscommunication - so long for the
> transparency, stability and so on.)
>
> Reading the «explanation» on both sides[1][2], as well as latest
> freenode communication[3], I'd rather go for the OFTC thing, since it's
> (really) independent of the whole thing.
>
> True freenode is (was?) a central player for FOSS communities. But with
> all the screaming around, it might get harder to stick with them.
>
> Though, right now, the current privacy policy[4] doesn't reflect any
> weird use of our data (that is, as of 2021-05-26, 08:30am CET). Maybe a
> false flag? We'll probably never really know, but checking that privacy
> policy and related contents evolution might provide a good hint.
>
> Some of the other communities I'm following have implemented a bridge
> bot, basically copy-pasting content from one network to another. That
> way, ppl could be on OFTC (or anywhere else where we have a foot on),
> while primary thing would stick to freenode (and thus allowing a clean
> migration)?
>
> My 2c ;).
>
> Cheers,
>
> C.
>
> [1] https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss
> [2] https://libera.chat/news/welcome-to-libera-chat
> [3] https://freenode.net/news/for-foss
> [4] https://freenode.net/policies
>
> On 5/14/21 5:05 PM, Chris Morgan wrote:
> > https://twitter.com/dmsimard/status/1393203159770804225?s=20
> > <https://twitter.com/dmsimard/status/1393203159770804225?s=20>
> > https://p.haavard.me/407 <https://p.haavard.me/407>
> >
> > I have no independent validation of this.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > --
> > Chris Morgan <mihalis68 at gmail.com <mailto:mihalis68 at gmail.com>>
>
> --
> Cédric Jeanneret (He/Him/His)
> Sr. Software Engineer - OpenStack Platform
> Deployment Framework TC
> Red Hat EMEA
> https://www.redhat.com/
>
>

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