[largescale-sig][neutron] What driver are you using?

Laurent Dumont laurentfdumont at gmail.com
Sat May 22 14:29:42 UTC 2021


We are "lucky" that external connectivity needs are limited. We have
between 50-100 IP per L2 usually. We do not have huge pools of public IPs
which are harder to handle/scale as with a public cloud.

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 10:59 AM Arnaud Morin <arnaud.morin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Laurent,
>
> Thanks for your reply!
> I agree that it depends on the scale usage.
> About the VLAN you are using for external networks, do you have/want to
> share the number of public IP you have in this L2 for a region?
>
> Cheers,
>
> On 11.05.21 - 19:21, Laurent Dumont wrote:
> > I feel like it depends a lot on the scale/target usage (public vs private
> > cloud).
> >
> > But at $dayjob, we are leveraging
> >
> >    - vlans for external networking (linux-bridge + OVS)
> >    - vxlans for internal Openstack networks.
> >
> > We like the simplicity of vxlan with minimal overlay configuration. There
> > are some scaling/performance issues with stuff like l2 population.
> >
> > VLANs are okay but it's hard to predict the next 5 years of growth.
> >
> > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 8:34 AM Arnaud Morin <arnaud.morin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey large-scalers,
> > >
> > > We had a discusion in my company (OVH) about neutron drivers.
> > > We are using a custom driver based on BGP for public networking, and
> > > another custom driver for private networking (based on vlan).
> > >
> > > Benefits from this are obvious:
> > > - we maintain the code
> > > - we do what we want, not more, not less
> > > - it fits perfectly to the network layer our company is using
> > > - we have full control of the networking stack
> > >
> > > But it also have some downsides:
> > > - we have to maintain the code... (rebasing, etc.)
> > > - we introduce bugs that are not upstream (more code, more bugs)
> > > - a change in code is taking longer, we have few people working on this
> > >   (compared to a community based)
> > > - this is not upstream (so not opensource)
> > > - we are not sharing (bad)
> > >
> > > So, we were wondering which drivers are used upstream in large scale
> > > environment (not sure a vlan driver can be used with more than 500
> > > hypervisors / I dont know about vxlan or any other solution).
> > >
> > > Is there anyone willing to share this info?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > >
>
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