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On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 22:43 +0200, Artem Goncharov wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 2021, 22:30 Sean Mooney <smooney at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 20:11 +0000, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> > > On 2021-05-20 22:04:27 +0200 (+0200), Artem Goncharov wrote:
> > > > On Thu, May 20, 2021, 21:42 Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On 2021-05-20 21:28:26 +0200 (+0200), Dmitry Tantsur wrote:
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > > This is, indeed, not quite on-topic, but I'm advocating for
> > > > > > Matrix, mostly because that's where Mozilla went and because it
> > > > > > seems to check all the boxes.
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > 
> > > > > It seems, from what little I've read, that Matrix servers can
> > > > > integrate with IRC server networks and bridge channels fairly
> > > > > seamlessly. If there were a Matrix bridge providing access to the
> > > > > same channels as people were participating in via IRC (wherever that
> > > > > happened to be), would that address your concerns?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Same can Zulip do (our company runs own instance). But generally yes,
> > this
> > > > would address at least my concerns.
> > > 
> > > Similarly, it seems like projects could then add a Zulip/IRC bridge
> > > for their channels if they wanted (and maybe that would even
> > > three-way bridge IRC, Matrix, and Zulip users?).
> > 
> > matix has a number of clinets
> > https://matrix.org/clients/ including what looks like two web based ones
> > https://element.io/get-started and https://fluffychat.im/
> > not sure how well they work in practic it kind of sound like a matix
> > bridge and
> > a hosted version fo say https://matrix.org/docs/projects/client/element
> > whic is apache 2 liscents
> > woudl sovle that use case since ironci could say go to webchat.o.o and
> > connect to the ironci channel
> > or soemthing like that kindo fo like how https://webchat.freenode.net/
> > works as web interface to irc.
> > 
> > if you click the try now button on https://matrix.org/ it send you to
> > https://element.io/get-started where you can
> > open in bowser or down lond the moble or desktop aps so it looks liek its
> > endorced by matix as how new user can get started quickly.
> > 
> > you could proably even user there hsoted version at
> > https://app.element.io/?pk_vid=162154222536360a#/welcome
> > 
> > matrix have bridge to freenod and oftc already
> > 
> > https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/Bridged-IRC-networks
> > 
> > 
> > not really sure about zulip but there is a brdige bot
> > https://matrix.org/docs/projects/bridge/matrix-zulip-bridgebot

just to keep pepole in the loop the irc bridge in matix works pretty well
other then needint to auth to nickserve because we require regeistered nics which is documented here
https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/Guide:-How-to-use-Matrix-to-participate-in-IRC-rooms
i was able to connect vai https://app.element.io/ and talk to in the infra channel with an old matix account i have
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/latest.log.html#t2021-05-20T20:35:01

the sign in process and account creation process is also pretty trival
since you can use github or an exisitng google account amoung several others.
so for those looking to use matrix you can do that today.

i previously used this on my phone with the riot client in the past but just went fo driect irc more recently not aht i
use etiehr on mobile frequently. just an fyi for those that were interested.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks guys, finally we reached constructive discussion and not the
> religious fight.
> 
> As long as bridge is repeating messages in both directions I think it can
> address most concerns. This feels cool, feels democratic, but not an
> unified way (not saying it's bad). Agree with Dmitriy that it feels like
> each team using some own stuff, and not as a single community. But giving
> teams flexibility is also great.