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> Well, we already have a problem: ruined trust from the participants.
We've had people explicitly voicing their undesire to use freenode any
longer.

I am one of these people. OpenStack channels remain the only place I exist
on Freenode, and I'm giving the community a short grace period to migrate,
or else I'll be forced to stop using IRC as a communication method.

As we have many folks in our community who are invested in free software
and the communities around them, I can't imagine I'm the only person
unwilling to continue usage of an IRC network that's been taken over in a
hostile manner and wrested from the control of democratically elected
volunteers.

-
Jay Faulkner



On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 6:52 AM Dmitry Tantsur <dtantsur at redhat.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 2:24 PM Mohammed Naser <mnaser at vexxhost.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 9:23 AM Erno Kuvaja <ekuvaja at redhat.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > For those of you who have not woken up to this sad day yet. Andrew Lee
>> has taken his stance as owner of freenode ltd. and by the (one sided) story
>> of the former volunteer staff members basically forced the whole community
>> out.
>> >
>> > As there is history of LTM shutting down networks before (snoonet), it
>> is appropriate to expect that the intentions here are not aligned with the
>> communities and specially the users who's data he has access to via this
>> administrative takeover.
>> >
>> > I think it's our time to take swift action and show our support to all
>> the hard working volunteers who were behind freenode and move all our
>> activities to irc.libera.chat.
>> >
>> > Please see https://twitter.com/freenodestaff
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_freenodestaff&d=DwMFaQ&c=sWW_bEwW_mLyN3Kx2v57Q8e-CRbmiT9yOhqES_g_wVY&r=NKR1jXf8to59hDGraABDUb4djWcsAXM11_v4c7uz0Tg&m=xyeL1zKdco52ULLb8iHlzIduIic2EF7UEQQjv5F9lWk&s=TSHzp_pyffg_r_scEmA4MLjplkrOZVJKGqNH6F8yUoY&e=>
>> and Christian's letter which links to the others as well
>> https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fuchsnet.ch_freenode-2Dresign-2Dletter.txt&d=DwMFaQ&c=sWW_bEwW_mLyN3Kx2v57Q8e-CRbmiT9yOhqES_g_wVY&r=NKR1jXf8to59hDGraABDUb4djWcsAXM11_v4c7uz0Tg&m=xyeL1zKdco52ULLb8iHlzIduIic2EF7UEQQjv5F9lWk&s=NIO5eH8_VyD5rsbvEwkYTbGp1haQ9T6GKow6b06bkvc&e=>
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Erno 'jokke' Kuvaja
>>
>> There is two sides to each story, this is the other one:
>>
>> https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__freenode.net_news_freenode-2Dis-2Dfoss&d=DwMFaQ&c=sWW_bEwW_mLyN3Kx2v57Q8e-CRbmiT9yOhqES_g_wVY&r=NKR1jXf8to59hDGraABDUb4djWcsAXM11_v4c7uz0Tg&m=xyeL1zKdco52ULLb8iHlzIduIic2EF7UEQQjv5F9lWk&s=rtWuVgVDaM9DbHw0c9MEGXj-6dckvOv86yyaXh4b-Ik&e=>
>>
>> I recommend that so long that we don't have any problems, we keep things
>> as is.
>>
>
> Well, we already have a problem: ruined trust from the participants. We've
> had people explicitly voicing their undesire to use freenode any longer.
> Given that IRC is already not very inclusive (see my other emails), we may
> end up with several disjointed chats for different community members -
> exactly the thing we want to avoid.
>
> -1 to pretending that nothing has happened.
>
> Dmitry
>
>
>>
>> --
>> Mohammed Naser
>> VEXXHOST, Inc.
>>
>>
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