As attentive members of the OpenStack community know, Friday 25 June is the Xena spec freeze for cinder [0]. There are four specs that have been discussed on and off at PTGs and midcycle meetings that don't appear ready for approval in Xena. The discussion of these specs at today's cinder meeting is here: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2021/cinder.2021-06-23-14.00.log.html#l-183 The specs I'm talking about are these: 1. Support revert any snapshot https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/736111 discussion: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderXenaMidCycleSummary#Support_revert_any_snapshot_to_the_volume 2. Migration support for a volume with replication status enabled https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/766130 discussion: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderXenaMidCycleSummary#Migration_support_for_a_volume_with_replication_status_enabled 3. Update original volume az https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/778437 discussion: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderXenaMidCycleSummary#Migration_support_for_a_volume_with_replication_status_enabled 4. Allow volumes to be part of multiple volume groups https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/792722 I think this spec isn't getting much attention because it has a -1 from Zuul, and the last few sections still contain the boilerplate language from the spec template, which makes it look like the spec is still in progress. When these have come up for discussion at previous meetings, there is general support among the cinder team, though there are details that we feel need to be worked out on the specs. These details have been noted on the Gerrit reviews and in the previous PTG and midcycle discussion summaries. While some points have been addressed, other important points have not. This makes me think that there is a communication problem between the team and the spec proposers. I encourage people proposing specs that are having problems in review to put their spec on the weekly cinder meeting agenda [1] so that we can discuss them interactively and hopefully explain more clearly what issues the cinder team has with the specs as currently proposed. If attending the weekly cinder meeting (1400 UTC on Wednesdays) is difficult because of time zone issues, please let me know and we can figure something out (maybe an occasional spec review meeting held at some time other than 1400 UTC). Or maybe there's an alternative communication medium we haven't explored yet. The cinder team encourages community participation in cinder development, and it distresses us to see these specs languishing. cheers, brian [0] https://releases.openstack.org/xena/schedule.html#x-cinder-spec-freeze [1] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-xena-meetings