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 ---- On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 06:43:18 -0600 Slawek Kaplonski <skaplons at redhat.com> wrote ----
 > Hi,
 > 
 > Dnia środa, 6 stycznia 2021 13:00:31 CET Herve Beraud pisze:
 > > Hello everyone,
 > > 
 > > Here is an email to officialize our position on Olso concerning our
 > > lower-constraints testing policy.
 > > Indeed we reached a consensus during our last meeting and all the Oslo
 > > cores who spoke agreed with this decision to drop the L.C tests [1].
 > > 
 > > So we already started to drop lower-constraints jobs on Oslo to unlock our
 > > gates.
 > 
 > Sorry if my question shouldn't be in that thread but does that mean that other 
 > projects should/can drop lower constraints jobs too? Is it some general, 
 > OpenStack wide decision or it depends on the project?

Yeah this is a good question till now we have been discussing specific project wise
dropping like oslo in this thread and Ironic and other projects in another discussion.

I am starting a separate thread to discuss it for all the projects as a general recommendation. 

 -http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-January/019672.html

-gmann

 > 
 > > 
 > > Thanks to everyone who joined the discussion and thanks for reading!
 > > 
 > > [1]
 > > http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2021/oslo.2021-01-04-16.00.log.
 > > txt #topic Dropping lower-constraints testing
 > > 
 > > Le ven. 18 déc. 2020 à 20:34, Moises Guimaraes de Medeiros <
 > > 
 > > moguimar at redhat.com> a écrit :
 > > > +1
 > > > 
 > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:46 PM Ghanshyam Mann <gmann at ghanshyammann.com>
 > > > 
 > > > wrote:
 > > >>  ---- On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 08:54:26 -0600 hberaud <hberaud at redhat.com>
 > > >> 
 > > >> wrote ----
 > > >> 
 > > >>  > Hello,
 > > >>  > As you already surely know, we (the openstack project) currently face
 > > >> 
 > > >> some issues with our lower-constraints jobs due to pip's latest  resolver
 > > >> feature.
 > > >> 
 > > >>  > By discussing this topic with Thierry Carrez (ttx) from an oslo point
 > > >> 
 > > >> of view, we reached the same conclusion that it is more appropriate to
 > > >> drop
 > > >> this kind of tests because the complexity and recurring pain neededto
 > > >> maintain them now exceeds the benefits provided by this mechanismes.
 > > >> 
 > > >>  > Also we should notice that the number of active maintainers is
 > > >> 
 > > >> declining, so we think that this is the shortest path to solve this
 > > >> problem
 > > >> on oslo for now and for the future too.
 > > >> 
 > > >>  > In a first time I tried to fix our gates by fixing our
 > > >> 
 > > >> lower-constraints project by project but with around ~36 projects to
 > > >> maintain this is a painful task, especially due to nested oslo layers
 > > >> inside oslo himself... I saw the face of the hell of dependencies.
 > > >> 
 > > >>  > So, in a second time I submitted a series of patches to drop these
 > > >> 
 > > >> tests [1].
 > > >> 
 > > >>  > But before moving further with that we would appreciate discussing
 > > >> 
 > > >> this with the TC. For now the patches are ready and we just have to push
 > > >> the good button accordingly to our choices (+W or abandon).
 > > >> 
 > > >>  > Normally all the oslo projects that need to be fixed are covered by
 > > >> 
 > > >> [1].
 > > >> 
 > > >>  > Thoughts?
 > > >> 
 > > >> +1, I think it's not worth to keep maintaining them which is taking too
 > > >> much effort.
 > > >> 
 > > >> -gmann
 > > >> 
 > > >>  > Thanks for reading.
 > > >>  > 
 > > >>  > [1]
 > > >> 
 > > >> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22oslo_lc_drop%22+(status:open%20OR%2
 > > >> 0status:merged)>> 
 > > >>  > --
 > > >>  > Hervé BeraudSenior Software Engineer at Red Hatirc: hberaudhttps://
 > > >> 
 > > >> github.com/4383/https://twitter.com/4383hberaud
 > > >> 
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 > > > --
 > > > 
 > > > Moisés Guimarães
 > > > 
 > > > Software Engineer
 > > > 
 > > > Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com>
 > > > 
 > > > <https://red.ht/sig>
 > > 
 > > --
 > > Hervé Beraud
 > > Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat
 > > irc: hberaud
 > > https://github.com/4383/
 > > https://twitter.com/4383hberaud
 > 
 > 
 > -- 
 > Slawek Kaplonski
 > Principal Software Engineer
 > Red Hat