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Concerning Oslo this is a team decision/position and for now this isn't
something general, so, you can still continue to test LC if it works for
you.

The TC still needs to  decide if we should continue with that or not in an
official manner.

Sorry if my precedent message is misleading some of you.

Le mer. 6 janv. 2021 à 14:25, Sean Mooney <smooney at redhat.com> a écrit :

> On Wed, 2021-01-06 at 13:43 +0100, Slawek Kaplonski wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Dnia środa, 6 stycznia 2021 13:00:31 CET Herve Beraud pisze:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Here is an email to officialize our position on Olso concerning our
> > > lower-constraints testing policy.
> > > Indeed we reached a consensus during our last meeting and all the Oslo
> > > cores who spoke agreed with this decision to drop the L.C tests [1].
> > >
> > > So we already started to drop lower-constraints jobs on Oslo to unlock
> our
> > > gates.
> >
> > Sorry if my question shouldn't be in that thread but does that mean that
> other
> > projects should/can drop lower constraints jobs too? Is it some general,
> > OpenStack wide decision or it depends on the project?
> lower constratis is not a required part fo the PTI
> https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/pti/python.html
>
> https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/project-testing-interface.html
> so its technially a per project desision as far as i am aware.
>
> while project were encouraged to adopt lower constratit testing we did not
> require all project
> to provide it and i belive there are some that dont unless im mistaken.
>
> so neutron could drop lc testing too i belive if it desired too.
> unless im misinterperting things
>
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone who joined the discussion and thanks for reading!
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2021/oslo.2021-01-04-16.00.log
> .
> > > txt #topic Dropping lower-constraints testing
> > >
> > > Le ven. 18 déc. 2020 à 20:34, Moises Guimaraes de Medeiros <
> > >
> > > moguimar at redhat.com> a écrit :
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:46 PM Ghanshyam Mann <
> gmann at ghanshyammann.com>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >  ---- On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 08:54:26 -0600 hberaud <
> hberaud at redhat.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote ----
> > > > >
> > > > >  > Hello,
> > > > >  > As you already surely know, we (the openstack project)
> currently face
> > > > >
> > > > > some issues with our lower-constraints jobs due to pip's latest
> resolver
> > > > > feature.
> > > > >
> > > > >  > By discussing this topic with Thierry Carrez (ttx) from an oslo
> point
> > > > >
> > > > > of view, we reached the same conclusion that it is more
> appropriate to
> > > > > drop
> > > > > this kind of tests because the complexity and recurring pain
> neededto
> > > > > maintain them now exceeds the benefits provided by this
> mechanismes.
> > > > >
> > > > >  > Also we should notice that the number of active maintainers is
> > > > >
> > > > > declining, so we think that this is the shortest path to solve this
> > > > > problem
> > > > > on oslo for now and for the future too.
> > > > >
> > > > >  > In a first time I tried to fix our gates by fixing our
> > > > >
> > > > > lower-constraints project by project but with around ~36 projects
> to
> > > > > maintain this is a painful task, especially due to nested oslo
> layers
> > > > > inside oslo himself... I saw the face of the hell of dependencies.
> > > > >
> > > > >  > So, in a second time I submitted a series of patches to drop
> these
> > > > >
> > > > > tests [1].
> > > > >
> > > > >  > But before moving further with that we would appreciate
> discussing
> > > > >
> > > > > this with the TC. For now the patches are ready and we just have
> to push
> > > > > the good button accordingly to our choices (+W or abandon).
> > > > >
> > > > >  > Normally all the oslo projects that need to be fixed are
> covered by
> > > > >
> > > > > [1].
> > > > >
> > > > >  > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > +1, I think it's not worth to keep maintaining them which is
> taking too
> > > > > much effort.
> > > > >
> > > > > -gmann
> > > > >
> > > > >  > Thanks for reading.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > [1]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22oslo_lc_drop%22+(status:open%20OR%2
> > > > > 0status:merged)>>
> > > > >  > --
> > > > >  > Hervé BeraudSenior Software Engineer at Red Hatirc:
> hberaudhttps://
> > > > >
> > > > > github.com/4383/https://twitter.com/4383hberaud
> > > > >
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> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Moisés Guimarães
> > > >
> > > > Software Engineer
> > > >
> > > > Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > > <https://red.ht/sig>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Hervé Beraud
> > > Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat
> > > irc: hberaud
> > > https://github.com/4383/
> > > https://twitter.com/4383hberaud
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

-- 
Hervé Beraud
Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat
irc: hberaud
https://github.com/4383/
https://twitter.com/4383hberaud
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